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Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by VMG on Thursday May 18, 2017 @05:00AM (#14365785)
I could come up with electrical motors and generators. Before that I saw them for controlling the arm of spinning hard drives, and those aren't used that much anymore. What else is there?
Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by falsedan on Thursday May 18, 2017 @05:10AM (#14365812)
> spinning hard drives, and those aren't used that much anymore

Hey! Are you basing this statement on your own experience of your personal/business hardware? Because spinning rust has never been more heavily used, for bulk on/near-line storage.

Judging by the list of alumni from Prof. Wang's group, HDD manufacturers have a strong demand for advanced applications of magnets, plus a tiny fraction from biomedical techs.

[0]: http://www.nanospin.umn.edu/people-0

Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by VMG on Thursday May 18, 2017 @09:45AM (#14367116)
You were right, I did not consider bulk storage outside my personal use. Thanks.
Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by theandrewbailey on Thursday May 18, 2017 @11:05AM (#14367826)
Hard drives are one of those big technologies that are more widely used and more important after they are obsolete[0].

[0] for some definition of obsolete.

Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by Sean1708 on Thursday May 18, 2017 @09:14AM (#14366895)
> and those aren't used that much anymore

There's still a lot of active research going into magnetic tape storage, I find it very difficult to believe research into hard drive storage is going to slow any time soon.

Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by lloydjatkinson on Thursday May 18, 2017 @05:10AM (#14365818)
> spinning hard drives, and those aren't used that much anymore.

Not sure if serious or not. Just because SSD's are popular, does not mean HDD's are unused.

Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by pingec on Thursday May 18, 2017 @07:03AM (#14366237)
Here are some more items I can think of: speakers, earphones, magnetic switches (eg. laptops), relays, sensors, CD/DVD ROM, maglev.
Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by beaconstudios on Thursday May 18, 2017 @07:37AM (#14366409)
AFAIK they all use electromagnets rather than permanent magnets.
Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by dEnigma on Thursday May 18, 2017 @08:22AM (#14366602)
At least earphones and speakers use permanent magnets[1], though according to Wikipedia[2] the early ones actually used electromagnets. I agree though that relays and maglev use electromagnets. I'm not sure about the rest.

[1]http://www.physics.org/article-questions.asp?id=54 [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudspeaker#History

Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by Robotbeat on Thursday May 18, 2017 @09:57AM (#14367218)
Some types of Maglev use permanent magnets: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductrack
Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by dEnigma on Friday May 19, 2017 @08:43AM (#14375033)
Oh, interesting. I didn't know about any project like this; thank you for the link.
Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by AlexandrB on Thursday May 18, 2017 @08:06AM (#14366529)
Last time I checked speakers and headphones still had a single permanent magnet + an electromagnet. However, for speakers, the "old" iron permanent magnets generally work just fine - they just have to be bigger.
Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by dahauns on Thursday May 18, 2017 @10:39AM (#14367562)
"Just have to be bigger"?

I want lighter guitar amps that don't cost an arm and a leg, dammit! :)

Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by bsder on Thursday May 18, 2017 @02:57PM (#14370003)
Then go solid-state.

Inverter-based power supplies are sufficiently light that a guitar amp should only be the weight of the wood and the speakers.

And, the speakers have to be a certain size to move the correct amount of air--so the copper coil is probably the limiting weight. It's remarkable how much air you have to actually move to get decent sound volume.

Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by dahauns on Friday May 19, 2017 @03:24PM (#14378664)
Hm...sounds plausible from a physics POV, but maybe there's something else? Since, in practice (at least as far as I can speak from experience), old-school ferrit 15" speakers are ~7-8kgs, while you can get similarly specced neodymium speakers that weigh about half (3-4kgs).
Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by bsder on Saturday May 20, 2017 @12:59AM (#14381126)
Maybe ferrite, but you can also get ceramic magnets:

Ceramic 4.4lbs 50W http://celestion.com/product/20/rocket_50/

Neodymium 3.7lbs 60W http://celestion.com/product/14/g12_century_vintage/

And, yes, you will find that the values are all over the map in terms of weight. There are some much less powerful speakers that are quite a bit heavier.

Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by mfrykman on Thursday May 18, 2017 @11:02AM (#14367789)
Most commercial drones have 4 motors w about 12 magnets each.

Some others: electric bikes, electric skateboards, power tools, blow dryers, iPad cases.

If I recall correctly, one of the earlier iPhones was basically held together w rare earth magnets, with the screen module magnetically stuck into the case. Can't find info to verify this though, so take it w a grain of salt.

Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by saagarjha on Thursday May 18, 2017 @01:26PM (#14369166)
Wasn't this the iMac?
Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by comboy on Thursday May 18, 2017 @06:33AM (#14366124)
Why is this being downvoted? Prev post said you don't realize how many magnets are around you, so the parent is asking. I wanna know too. I additionally came up with speakers/headphones, connectors, reed switches.
Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by CamperBob2 on Thursday May 18, 2017 @05:16AM (#14365843)
Low-field MRI could probably benefit from a 2x improvement in the state of the art.
Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by lostlogin on Thursday May 18, 2017 @06:47AM (#14366168)
High temperature superconductors are what MRI needs.
Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by CamperBob2 on Thursday May 18, 2017 @11:25PM (#14372818)
"MRI" covers a very wide variety of imaging and analysis techniques under the general category NMR (Nuclear Magnetic Resonance). Some forms of NMR analysis actually use the Earth's magnetic field (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_field_NMR).

Basically, the stronger the fixed magnetic field, the more you can see and do.

Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by lostlogin on Friday May 19, 2017 @01:57AM (#14373320)
Exactly. Super conductors are the ones I use and high temperature superconduction will likely make maintaining a super conductor much cheaper (after you spent lots on a whole new system).
Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by wycx on Thursday May 18, 2017 @08:29AM (#14366637)
Wigglers and undulators.