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Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by beaconstudios on Thursday May 18, 2017 @07:37AM (#14366409)
AFAIK they all use electromagnets rather than permanent magnets.
Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by dEnigma on Thursday May 18, 2017 @08:22AM (#14366602)
At least earphones and speakers use permanent magnets[1], though according to Wikipedia[2] the early ones actually used electromagnets. I agree though that relays and maglev use electromagnets. I'm not sure about the rest.

[1]http://www.physics.org/article-questions.asp?id=54 [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudspeaker#History

Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by Robotbeat on Thursday May 18, 2017 @09:57AM (#14367218)
Some types of Maglev use permanent magnets: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductrack
Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by dEnigma on Friday May 19, 2017 @08:43AM (#14375033)
Oh, interesting. I didn't know about any project like this; thank you for the link.
Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by AlexandrB on Thursday May 18, 2017 @08:06AM (#14366529)
Last time I checked speakers and headphones still had a single permanent magnet + an electromagnet. However, for speakers, the "old" iron permanent magnets generally work just fine - they just have to be bigger.
Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by dahauns on Thursday May 18, 2017 @10:39AM (#14367562)
"Just have to be bigger"?

I want lighter guitar amps that don't cost an arm and a leg, dammit! :)

Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by bsder on Thursday May 18, 2017 @02:57PM (#14370003)
Then go solid-state.

Inverter-based power supplies are sufficiently light that a guitar amp should only be the weight of the wood and the speakers.

And, the speakers have to be a certain size to move the correct amount of air--so the copper coil is probably the limiting weight. It's remarkable how much air you have to actually move to get decent sound volume.

Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by dahauns on Friday May 19, 2017 @03:24PM (#14378664)
Hm...sounds plausible from a physics POV, but maybe there's something else? Since, in practice (at least as far as I can speak from experience), old-school ferrit 15" speakers are ~7-8kgs, while you can get similarly specced neodymium speakers that weigh about half (3-4kgs).
Re:Iron Nitride Permanent Magnets – An Alternative to Rare E... by bsder on Saturday May 20, 2017 @12:59AM (#14381126)
Maybe ferrite, but you can also get ceramic magnets:

Ceramic 4.4lbs 50W http://celestion.com/product/20/rocket_50/

Neodymium 3.7lbs 60W http://celestion.com/product/14/g12_century_vintage/

And, yes, you will find that the values are all over the map in terms of weight. There are some much less powerful speakers that are quite a bit heavier.