A lot we know about pirates is not true, and a lot of what is true is not known

Re:A lot we know about pirates is not true, and a lot of wha... by bimjam27 on Monday May 08, 2017 @01:22AM (#14289420)

Interesting because alot of modern day pirates/hackers are exactly the same. Co-opting their identities from movies like "Hackers" and "Sneakers". If you read any of the interview sections of Phrack articles these movies and their aesthetics are all referenced heavily. I think it was ironic/toungue in cheek at first but then turned into something sincere as new generations looked up to the old without context.

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Re:A lot we know about pirates is not true, and a lot of wha... by harryf on Monday May 08, 2017 @02:18AM (#14289622)

Great point. V for Vendetta / Anonymous would be the most visible example

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Re:A lot we know about pirates is not true, and a lot of wha... by efdee on Monday May 08, 2017 @06:08AM (#14290414)

Indeed. I'm quite sure many of today's Anons wouldn't even know that the mask is a symbol of failure in their own lore.

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Re:A lot we know about pirates is not true, and a lot of wha... by blincoln on Monday May 08, 2017 @10:26AM (#14291709)

Can you elaborate on this? I'm not a member of Anonymous, but I've read the graphic novel version of _V For Vendetta_ as well as seen the film, and I didn't get that impression at all.

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Re:A lot we know about pirates is not true, and a lot of wha... by InitialLastName on Monday May 08, 2017 @12:14PM (#14292922)

The mask didn't originate with V for Vendetta. It comes from a likeness of Guy Fawkes, whose 5th of November (Gunpowder) plot to blow up the British parliament and impose a Catholic theocracy was thwarted.

To celebrate that failure, Brits light fireworks and burn dummies wearing that mask every 11/5.

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Re:A lot we know about pirates is not true, and a lot of wha... by Nadya on Monday May 08, 2017 @03:37PM (#14294851)

Yes, but the `Anonymous`/4chan usage is inspired from V for Vendetta, at least to my knowledge of chan history. It just so happens to be the Guy Fawkes mask which holds another meaning for Brits. It might change how some people, especially British people, see the mask but that isn't the intention.

For example, a pink triangle means something different now than it did during the 40s and pointing to its historic usage instead of its reclaimed/new usage would be disingenuous and missing the point of how it is being used in the modern context. Pointing to Guy Fawkes instead of Vendetta for Anonymous' usage of the mask is missing the point.

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Re:A lot we know about pirates is not true, and a lot of wha... by aqsalose on Monday May 08, 2017 @06:21PM (#14296181)

However, Alan Moore and David Lloyd did not choose that V wears Guy Fawkes mask by coincidence.

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Re:A lot we know about pirates is not true, and a lot of wha... by efdee on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @09:08AM (#14349220)

The use of the mask finds its roots in the Epic Fail Guy meme, a character destined to fail at anything he does. At one point EFG finds a V for Vendetta mask in a trashcan and starts wearing it.

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Re:A lot we know about pirates is not true, and a lot of wha... by qznc on Monday May 08, 2017 @03:36AM (#14289897)

Still, the actual pirates (the naval boarding ones, for example in Nigeria) are not romantic. They have families at home and would prefer a peaceful life.

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