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Re:The great British Brexit robbery by Symbiote on Sunday May 07, 2017 @07:33AM (#14284945)
Doesn't "marketing" suggest someone was trying to sell something?

This was a public health awareness campaign, and given the huge number of TV (and other) adverts they had, I'm surprised if people didn't see it as such.

I wouldn't call the road or railway safety campaigns 'marketing', but they're also well-run campaigns with lots of visibility and sometimes memorable phrases.

Re:The great British Brexit robbery by kristianc on Sunday May 07, 2017 @07:42AM (#14284970)
This risks getting into semantics, but no. The AMA definition of marketing is:

"the activity, set of institutions, and processes for creating, communicating,delivering, and exchanging offerings that have value for customers, clients, partners, and society at large." [1]

Having worked with the people who run such campaigns they would absolutely describe themselves as marketing practitioners, many move between public and private sector during the course of their career and the skillset and techniques for doing both are completely fungible. Worth remembering also that public health campaigns are paid for with public money.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marketing

Re:The great British Brexit robbery by bostik on Sunday May 07, 2017 @07:43AM (#14284973)
> Doesn't "marketing" suggest someone was trying to sell something?

Yes. An agenda.

Personally, and I have held this opinion for more than 2 decades now, is that I don't see any practical difference between marketing campaigns and political propaganda. They are both trying to influence an audience for their own benefit, and are constantly trying to sell something.

Services. Check. Products. Check. Ideas. Check. A way of life. Check.

An agenda? Check.

(EDIT: make quoted text appear in italics)

Re:The great British Brexit robbery by icebraining on Sunday May 07, 2017 @08:06AM (#14285039)
What's the "own benefit" part in Five a Day, though?
Re:The great British Brexit robbery by kristianc on Sunday May 07, 2017 @08:25AM (#14285105)
Public Health campaigns tend to operate on the premise that it's more cost-effective to "inform"/"educate"/"sell" the idea of preventative healthcare than have obese / drunk drivers / heart attack patients clogging up A&E departments. It might be sound logic, but it's still marketing.
Re:The great British Brexit robbery by Symbiote on Sunday May 07, 2017 @08:15AM (#14285075)
So where does public safety fit in?

For example, I wouldn't say this was political, they have nothing to sell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO5pI5pmYE4 (railway safety)

The campaign that started the "5 a day" thing was called Change 4 Life, and seems closer to education and information than propaganda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb0fLYdPEPM

Re:The great British Brexit robbery by kristianc on Sunday May 07, 2017 @08:27AM (#14285110)
QED: Change4Life describes itself as a "social marketing campaign," and as I pointed out deploys all of the techniques of regular marketing campaigns vis-a-vis audience segmentation etc. Change4Life isn't aimed at the whole population, but so-called "high-risk families."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Change4Life

http://www.nhs.uk/Change4Life/supporter-resources/downloads/...