"Simple. Secure. Stunning." is right up there with all these "show hn" that start with "beautiful".

Let social proof speak for itself. Show a quote from a major publication calling you stunning. Don't call yourself stunning. I bet you it is more effective that way.

Edit: the thought occurred to me just now, imagine if in online dating profiles someone started their profile with a self-proclaimed "Handsome and sexy"... would you go out with that person? Then again, I haven't been d ating in 10 years, maybe it's changed.

Not all applications consider looking Stunning an important goal. These 3 words tell me that the application designers consider security, ease of use, and good looks as their major priorities while designing the application.

A person self proclaiming that they are sexy and handsome is either lying (if they are not) or they are boasting about their genes, which is not something today's society considers boast worthy.

I can see that. I don't think I'd have an issue if this was their mission statement and plastered all over their office walls as something aspirational. But that's not how it is being used here.

One big point for me: Except for Airmail, none of the new "minimalist" mail apps do plaintext. They all force you to send as HTML. I would love for "rich" email to work, but it's not nice the way current clients do it. In particular, I think it's incredibly presumptuous for the sender to specify which font the recipient should read the text in.

My favourite mail client ever was Sparrow, until Google killed it.

The only reason I'm not using it today is that I was using the beta, and at one point they did a lot of frequent bugfix releases, and each new release started to require that you set up all your settings (mail accounts etc.) from scratch. I got tired of it and abandoned the thing.

I'm sure it's better now, I just haven't felt like going through all the steps again yet. Airmail does plaintext email, too.

Choose any of the other sub-pages (from PRIVACY | AI | TRACKING | SANITIZER | SNOOZE | SEARCH) and you see other screenshots.

The on-boarding screenshots are a bad choice for the landing page.

Product Hunt is beyond the tipping point of being an inside community where your product only succeeds if a dozen or so other "makers" (as they call it) can also advertise their churn in your thread.

Just last week that Spreadshare product was at the top of the page because their maker went out and spammed Slack channels soliciting upvotes under the false pretense of offering jobs to developers.

Perhaps information on a third party auditor?

From the http request you're taking all kinds of metadata to your server. I don't want to add my PGP key in here to check, but I assume this is default for PGP messages too?

Having said that, sometimes this can be overcome by virtue of a killer app, and Canary Mail may have one in the form of PGP for iOS. For whatever reason despite iOS's strong overall security narrative and use by people concerned about security, and despite native S/MIME being available since IIRC iOS 5.0, there has been a curious lack of PGP availability in any alternate iOS mail client. I say curious because email clients are one of those areas where it is very hard to get people away from the overall functional native one, so uncovered features that a niche user base will find extremely compelling matter more then in other kinds of software. Lack of PGP with iOS has network effects in that these days email that can only be read via a PC OS and is unreadable on mobile is pretty hard to accept. If Canary has no utterly breaking flaws then PGP support would make me at least take a hard look, including buying a copy purely for evaluation purposes whether I ultimately use it or not.

Advanced account settings was prefilled with almost-right information, which legit helps, but the labels only appear when the fields are empty, so I had to delete the prefilled info to see which ones needed to be changed.

Waiting on the animation between messages got old halfway through the first time, so I looked around in preferences for a way to shorten or turn it off. No luck, but in toggling the option to display or not display the message pane, I ended up with a window that consisted of disconnected segments of the top of each of the three panes. Quit was necessary to restore.

Did a quick search to collect a bunch of github messages from one project and delete them. Seven threads from my inbox and one from my archive were included. Not what I meant, no obvious way to change, but oh well I can live with deleting that one too. Right pane showed eight threads, gave bulk option to delete. Deleted, but then the right pane remained, the search now showed more entries, seemingly including both the now-gone inbox entries plus all the messages I'd just trashed in the trash.

Processing a few more messages, I ended up with the message pane showing only a ~20 px sliver of each message. Scroll bar still behaved as though the whole message was visible. Quit was again required to fix.

I'm on the mailing list, so hopefully I'll hear about future bug fix releases, but the app's too buggy in five min of use to even think about making it a daily thing as is.

Gah! What an anti-pattern!

Total OT sidebar, but UX has gone through so much regression in the last decade I'm starting to view it as confirmation of the cyclical theory of history: flat UI, tiny thin fonts, washed out colors, material design removing differences between tabs, labels, buttons and badges, etc.

Maybe it's just temporary insanity, but holy cow things have gotten bad.

I hope canary has something non-evil figured out, the client looks nice.

Encryption with you owning the key is a requirement if it is going to be stored on a third party service. You can provide a subscription model for the server costs if need be.

[1]: https://canarymail.io/faq.html

Source: https://sparkmailapp.com/privacy

> Accounts are added to Spark through OAuth where possible. Where OAuth is not supported we keep your account username and password on our secure servers. We then use the authorization provided to download your emails to our virtual servers and push to your device. We use Amazon Web Services (AWS) infrastructure to store your data. Apart from the AWS' security policies we take a number of measures to ensure that your data is never read by anyone else. We ensure that all transmission is secured with HTTPS so that no one else can access your data. Your account credentials are stored on secure cloud-based servers using asymmetric encryption.

It's a secure e-mail client, so they can't release the source! /s

Airmail hangs several seconds on startup doing god-knows-what.

When you send the email it generates a unique hash it places a tracking pixel (1x1 transparent gif image) served off a canary mail server into the email with that hash. For a period your client queries them for the a yes/no on if that tracking pixel with the hash has been downloaded.

That is typically how email marketing platforms do it, and it appears to be consistent with the FAQ.