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Re:Canary Mail – Smart Email Client for Mac and iOS with PGP... by mikhailt on Saturday May 06, 2017 @11:16AM (#14280590)
At this point, I'm just happy there is a new email client that isn't storing anything on the third party servers. Good for Canary and I'll give it a try.
Re:Canary Mail – Smart Email Client for Mac and iOS with PGP... by carsongross on Saturday May 06, 2017 @11:22AM (#14280618)
Email client economics are tough, you need some sort of service-like revenue associated with it or you sell your customers data in order to have a sustainable business.

I hope canary has something non-evil figured out, the client looks nice.

Re:Canary Mail – Smart Email Client for Mac and iOS with PGP... by LeoPanthera on Saturday May 06, 2017 @01:43PM (#14281408)
...or you could just sell the software? That's how we used to do it in the Olden Days.
Re:Canary Mail – Smart Email Client for Mac and iOS with PGP... by carsongross on Saturday May 06, 2017 @02:40PM (#14281632)
That model only worked when people would buy your new software every year. Now a lot of software is good enough, and maybe your competition is even free, and the revenue dries up.
Re:Canary Mail – Smart Email Client for Mac and iOS with PGP... by mikhailt on Saturday May 06, 2017 @04:30PM (#14282090)
Considering the amount of the personal data still going through email, this is one of the few areas that no one should be giving up to any third party services, regardless of the benefits it may provide.

Encryption with you owning the key is a requirement if it is going to be stored on a third party service. You can provide a subscription model for the server costs if need be.

Re:Canary Mail – Smart Email Client for Mac and iOS with PGP... by lorenz_li on Saturday May 06, 2017 @04:47PM (#14282171)
They actually mention in the FAQ [1] that once they officially release their apps there will be a free and a paid version.

[1]: https://canarymail.io/faq.html

Re:Canary Mail – Smart Email Client for Mac and iOS with PGP... by cormacrelf on Saturday May 06, 2017 @01:23PM (#14281297)
Does Spark store anything on 3rd party servers? I didn't think so.
Re:Canary Mail – Smart Email Client for Mac and iOS with PGP... by mikhailt on Saturday May 06, 2017 @04:25PM (#14282065)
Yes, they do. It's why I don't use them.

Source: https://sparkmailapp.com/privacy

> Accounts are added to Spark through OAuth where possible. Where OAuth is not supported we keep your account username and password on our secure servers. We then use the authorization provided to download your emails to our virtual servers and push to your device. We use Amazon Web Services (AWS) infrastructure to store your data. Apart from the AWS' security policies we take a number of measures to ensure that your data is never read by anyone else. We ensure that all transmission is secured with HTTPS so that no one else can access your data. Your account credentials are stored on secure cloud-based servers using asymmetric encryption.

Re:Canary Mail – Smart Email Client for Mac and iOS with PGP... by cormacrelf on Sunday May 07, 2017 @01:49AM (#14284066)
I may be wrong, but that seems like the only way to provide push notifications. I guess that's the trade-off.