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Re:Macron condemns 'massive' hacking attack by walrus01 on Friday May 05, 2017 @07:55PM (#14277725)
in comparison to Le Pen, nearly everyone is a flaming liberal/socialist. What exists to the right of Le Pen? Actual swastika wearing nazis?
Re:Macron condemns 'massive' hacking attack by grondilu on Friday May 05, 2017 @08:06PM (#14277790)
It's kind of sad that we classify Politics so linearly. After all originally it was only based on where representatives were seated at the assembly. What characterizes Le Pen is the nationalist stand inherited from her father : basically the idea that most problems come from immigration so that we should close borders and kick foreigners away.

The schism between "socialism" and "liberalism" has imho, nothing to do with that. It's more an economical philosophy about the ownership of capital, as discussed by Marx.

In addition to that there are differences regarding some moral values, where "conservatives" are usually seen as people who stand their grounds on old principles (like heterosexual marriage, death penalty, gun ownership), though it seems to me that this is very much an American.

Anyhow, this makes it all very confusing, especially when translating, and I suppose that's why an article written in English did not say Macron is "socialist" but rather "liberal", even if in France "liberal" kind of means "right-wing".

Re:Macron condemns 'massive' hacking attack by justAlittleCom on Friday May 05, 2017 @08:43PM (#14277966)
Macron is NOT socialist (he told it himself) (Well, to be fair, he also told that he was (cf youtube link for both)). He's pure and simple right-wing. He believe that we should let the market treat workers as they please. That's what we call "Being liberal" in Europe. Its the opposite of being socialists: the government should protect the workers from the institutions who wants to exploit them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EBeAoFfXpg

Re:Macron condemns 'massive' hacking attack by mschuster91 on Friday May 05, 2017 @08:03PM (#14277774)
> What exists to the right of Le Pen? Actual swastika wearing nazis?

For the record, her own father, which she ejected from the party, was a well known antisemite and worshipper of Hitler himself...

Re:Macron condemns 'massive' hacking attack by ceejayoz on Friday May 05, 2017 @07:58PM (#14277753)
> Actual swastika wearing nazis?

Pretty much. Including her estranged father: http://www.timesofisrael.com/le-pens-father-slams-her-perfor...