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Re:Puerto Rico files for biggest ever U.S. local government ... by Consultant32452 on Wednesday May 03, 2017 @07:54PM (#14261316)
Not always. The US technically defaulted on its debts when we dumped the gold standard. Luckily for us, we were still the biggest global super power so we were able to tell everyone to just suck it. For reference, there's an estimated $7 Trillion in gold in the world and the US is now $19 Trillion in debt.
Re:Puerto Rico files for biggest ever U.S. local government ... by cgio on Wednesday May 03, 2017 @08:30PM (#14261487)
Why would you tie an economy's capacity with the limited supply of a good? These trillions of debt (could) have created equivalent value in infrastructure, education, military power etc. The fact that the gold equivalent of what amounts to a whole economy does not exist is not an indication that the value is not there in the economy.
Re:Puerto Rico files for biggest ever U.S. local government ... by Consultant32452 on Wednesday May 03, 2017 @08:39PM (#14261534)
I didn't make any value statements on whether or not I think an asset backed currency is preferable. I just pointed out that the US defaulted on its debt when we told the world we weren't going to pay them back what we promised.
Re:Puerto Rico files for biggest ever U.S. local government ... by hueving on Friday May 05, 2017 @10:06AM (#14273498)
"we"? The US abandoned the gold standard in the 1930s. The "we" that promised anything is long dead and has nothing to do with the "we" (US citizens) now.

A citizen today is no more accountable for actions taken that long ago than for actions taken 4000 years ago.

Re:Puerto Rico files for biggest ever U.S. local government ... by Consultant32452 on Saturday May 06, 2017 @10:36PM (#14283544)
Nixon was the one that put the nail in the coffin of the gold standard and defaulted on our debt. I don't see how it makes a difference how old our debt is if we're still paying the interest on it.
Re:Puerto Rico files for biggest ever U.S. local government ... by rootusrootus on Wednesday May 03, 2017 @08:06PM (#14261377)
And the upside is that the economy is much larger than it could ever have been while stuck on gold.
Re:Puerto Rico files for biggest ever U.S. local government ... by Consultant32452 on Wednesday May 03, 2017 @08:46PM (#14261561)
I'm sure it matters, but not as much as a surface analysis would lead you to believe. If we had to hoard a bunch of gold to back up the size of our economy, and further demanded our trade counterparts do the same, then the price of gold would've risen and our ownership proportion of the total sum of gold would've matched our proportional global wealth. I don't have a strong opinion on asset backed currencies, but most of the things armchair economists say about it seem pretty irrational.
Re:Puerto Rico files for biggest ever U.S. local government ... by selectodude on Wednesday May 03, 2017 @09:17PM (#14261686)
There's more people in the country, so there's proportionally more dollars + a little more as an incentive to spend your money. If dollars gained value faster than economic growth (which you just effectiveally capped at the amount of gold your country possesses) nobody would ever spend it. I know I wouldn't.
Re:Puerto Rico files for biggest ever U.S. local government ... by Consultant32452 on Wednesday May 03, 2017 @09:55PM (#14261834)
I'm not sure the current system which actively discourages thrift while enslaving our entire population to life-long debt is objectively better.
Re:Puerto Rico files for biggest ever U.S. local government ... by throwanem on Wednesday May 03, 2017 @08:27PM (#14261472)
Will it stay that way? What happens if it doesn't?
Re:Puerto Rico files for biggest ever U.S. local government ... by jacobush on Thursday May 04, 2017 @07:20AM (#14264007)
- SHALL WE PLAY A GAME?

- Love to. How about Global Thermonuclear War?

- WOULDN'T YOU PREFER A GOOD GAME OF CHESS?

- Later. Let's play global thermonuclear war.