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Re:Twilio stock plummets as major client Uber distances itself by the_common_man on Tuesday May 02, 2017 @06:50PM (#14251394)
Twilio is really a one trick pony. As messaging apps proliferate, the need for sms/telephony will slowly die out.
Re:Twilio stock plummets as major client Uber distances itself by josh_carterPDX on Tuesday May 02, 2017 @06:51PM (#14251403)
Not sure I would say that. They have voice, video, messaging, SIP, etc. They have a lot of tricks.
Re:Twilio stock plummets as major client Uber distances itself by stale2002 on Tuesday May 02, 2017 @07:01PM (#14251468)
They've got a lot of attempts to expand to similar markets, but the problem is that most are second class.

Twilio is the market leader for developer SMS, and voice.

They are not the market leader for any of the other categories that they are trying to expand to.

Re:Twilio stock plummets as major client Uber distances itself by chrsstrm on Tuesday May 02, 2017 @07:40PM (#14251737)
As someone looking to work with both programmable video messaging and SIP trunking in the very near future, can you name competitors that do it better?
Re:Twilio stock plummets as major client Uber distances itself by toomuchtodo on Tuesday May 02, 2017 @08:56PM (#14252184)
Look at bandwidth.com for SIP trunking.

Edit: if I recall correctly from many years ago, this is who Twilio uses for their US telecom/CLEC interface.

Edit 2: yep, bandwidth.com now even competes against Twilio: https://getvoip.com/amp/blog/2016/06/01/twilio-alternatives/

Re:Twilio stock plummets as major client Uber distances itself by stale2002 on Tuesday May 02, 2017 @09:25PM (#14252307)
It doesn't matter. Pick a competitor at random and the competitor will be 100X cheaper.

Twilio is good at one thing. And that is the developer experience.

If you are willing to pay 100X the price, in order to have awesome documentation, then Twilio is the right solution for you.

Otherwise.... Well.... Anything else is probably better.

Re:Twilio stock plummets as major client Uber distances itself by getsauce on Wednesday May 03, 2017 @10:32AM (#14255960)
100X the price? When it comes to SIP trunking at least, Twilio is one of the cheapest[0] if not the cheapest pay per minute provider. Compare with Flowroute[1] for instance, another popular SIP trunking provider, Twilio is significantly cheaper, especially on origination.

[0] https://www.twilio.com/sip-trunking/pricing [1] https://www.flowroute.com/pricing/

Re:Twilio stock plummets as major client Uber distances itself by jessaustin on Tuesday May 02, 2017 @11:07PM (#14252710)
If that's true, it's hard to imagine why anyone at Uber's size is still using Twilio.
Re:Twilio stock plummets as major client Uber distances itself by phamilton on Tuesday May 02, 2017 @11:54PM (#14252914)
Because big contracts give companies leverage for discounts. Netflix, for example, pays way less than AWS on demand pricing.
Re:Twilio stock plummets as major client Uber distances itself by josh_carterPDX on Tuesday May 02, 2017 @07:03PM (#14251493)
Not yet.
Re:Twilio stock plummets as major client Uber distances itself by derimagia on Tuesday May 02, 2017 @07:04PM (#14251495)
They bought Authy as well.
Re:Twilio stock plummets as major client Uber distances itself by panzer_wyrm on Tuesday May 02, 2017 @08:11PM (#14251960)
For the observable future telephony is the only thing that guarantees that a connection will get to you now. And sms-s have very good track records of getting them while your coverage is spotty.
Re:Twilio stock plummets as major client Uber distances itself by kevinburke on Tuesday May 02, 2017 @07:18PM (#14251589)
Re:Twilio stock plummets as major client Uber distances itself by JustSomeNobody on Tuesday May 02, 2017 @09:49PM (#14252405)
Not really. If you're a business that needs to text your customers, you'd much rather use one API to send SMS messages than have to dick around with FB messenger, WhatsApp, etc.
Re:Twilio stock plummets as major client Uber distances itself by nix0n on Tuesday May 02, 2017 @07:02PM (#14251479)
I think an SMS/WhatsApp/WeChat/Hangouts/FBMessenger bridge could be an even more useful service than just an SMS bridge.
Re:Twilio stock plummets as major client Uber distances itself by mrbabbage on Tuesday May 02, 2017 @07:04PM (#14251501)
There's a YC company called Front that does more or less this: https://frontapp.com/
Re:Twilio stock plummets as major client Uber distances itself by sotojuan on Tuesday May 02, 2017 @07:10PM (#14251541)
We use this at work for talking to customers and it works fine, but note that they use Twilio under the hood IIRC.

Also their SPA app is what you'd expect from JavaScript apps—buggy and prone to slowness once it reaches a certain scale.

Re:Twilio stock plummets as major client Uber distances itself by MichaelGG on Tuesday May 02, 2017 @07:26PM (#14251636)
WhatsApp would be huge. A WhatsApp PBX, auto-responders, etc. But it seems like FB would nix access pretty quickly so you'd constantly be playing whack-a-mole. They might even terminate the underlying account, making it too risky for businesses to even consider.