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Re:Hard-won lessons: Five years with Node.js by rapsey on Thursday April 20, 2017 @03:43AM (#14154704)
> So? Atom and Visual Studio Code did need to be installed too on my machine. This mentality reminds me of someone using an axe head as a hammer "I'd have to pull the hammer out of the toolbox" (install it) - that's too complicated, I prefer light-weight tools!"

You misunderstand my point completely. I was trying to say the Java ecosystem is complicated and the only way it works is by using large IDEs. Saying how awesome Java IDEs are is disingenuous because Java is unusable without them.

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Re:Hard-won lessons: Five years with Node.js by PerfectDlite on Thursday April 20, 2017 @04:15PM (#14160402)
> because Java is unusable without them

This is like saying 'Javascript is unusable without IDEs', you know.

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Re:Hard-won lessons: Five years with Node.js by jerryszczerry on Thursday April 20, 2017 @04:20PM (#14160459)
And this is making Java look good how exactly?
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Re:Hard-won lessons: Five years with Node.js by PerfectDlite on Friday April 21, 2017 @10:28AM (#14165879)
This makes all programmers liking to write code with maximum level of comfort - e.g. using IDEs.
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Re:Hard-won lessons: Five years with Node.js by taway_1212 on Thursday April 20, 2017 @06:16AM (#14155399)
Most Java people I know use IDEs mostly just to edit and debug the code, and does the builds/runs/tests from the command line.
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Re:Hard-won lessons: Five years with Node.js by stewbrew on Thursday April 20, 2017 @09:38AM (#14156479)
What do you mean with "just to edit"? Aren't there any (compilation) errors, warnings displayed anywhere?
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Re:Hard-won lessons: Five years with Node.js by taway_1212 on Thursday April 20, 2017 @12:26PM (#14158146)
Yeah there are, sorry, a this point I consider them basically auxiliary editor features. I forgot that some other languages don't have this luxury.
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