PerfectDlite

> Tu-144 flew before Concord.

"The aircraft was introduced into passenger service on 1 November 1977, almost two years after Concorde, because of budget restrictions."

Yes, they've managed to "overcame bourgeous West" with Tu-144, but because design and production was rushed - they got Paris air show crash, postponed operational services and generally bad design, forcing earlier retirement for Tu-144.

This is good, but I've asked about achievements "made in USSR" which ordinary people still use in their daily lives.

Not sure that many people are using deciphered Mayan glyphs in their daily routines.

> There were no questions

In Soviet Russia question marks aren't marking questions!

Sputnik was a proof of GPS concept?

That's... amazing.

> excerpts from the magazine "Trud" from 13 June 1941

Those excerpts miraculously appeared only in 2013, when another wave of Russian nationalism sweeped over.

Consider me suspicious.

> Soviet scientists did a lot contributions to the scientific community, including in such areas like chemistry, cybernetics, neurophysiology, psychology among others, just like any other big country in the world.

No. Other big countries made _actual_ inventions (US, UK, France, Germany).

Ok, let's talk about scientific success in USSR.

I'd like to see sources to lasers, microwave ovens and TVs which were invented by Soviets.

So, GPS wasn't invented by Soviets and nobody is listening to Soviet radiobeats. What's your point then?

> save on having to grind prescription glasses for people

Are you implying that removing cornea and re-attaching it will be _cheaper_ than grinding prescription glasses?

And I'm still wondering about that mysterious Soviet microwave oven in 1941.

> The Obninsk power plant has been connected to a grid in 1954

Are you aware that Obninsk was a "closed" city and wasn't marked on the Soviet maps initially?

So whole town was classified, among the power plant.

> Are there any?

Yes. A lot.

> Making iPhone copies will probably be prohibitively expensive, otherwise China will already make those in numbers.

According to iPhone 7 teardown [0] there's 3x difference in components price and retail price - $220 vs $649.

Do you think that everyone in the China and the world missed the opportunity to eat into that kind of margin?

[0] - https://9to5mac.com/2016/09/20/649-iphone-7-estimated-to-cos...

> it's hard to defend the idea that nothing of value can be made there

So you can provide examples of those "values"? But not mythical Soviet microwave ovens in 1941, please.

> And of course Russians perfected rocket technology way in XIX century, using solid rockets as a weapon.

Russians? Not Chinese or British or Americans, but Russians?

I'm amazed on number of Russian myths here.

I've said "scientific achievements "made in USSR" which ordinary people still use in their daily lives"

So, yes, basically - commercial achievements for ordinary people.

Sure. Good luck trying to sell iPhone copies.

> The USSR's nuclear espionage helped their bomb project, but it was not essential.

Definitely! They've steal US nuclear documents just for laughs, comrade!

> Everyone's smartphone listens to radio beeps to geolocate

Are you telling me that Soviets invented GPS?

Soft contact lenses were invented by Czech scientists.

Synthetic diamonds were created by French chemist in 19th century.

1. Lasers? Invented by Soviets?

2. Vladimir Zworykin was a Soviet scientist? Really?

3. First soviet nuclear power plant was highly classified. First commercial nuclear power plant was created in US.

4. Artificial heart - for a dog. Not for a human.

5. And as for microwave oven in 1941 - is this another Russian myth?

For stealing Western tech?

Look at glorious Soviet cars, for example.

Now look at glorious Soviet massframe computers.

> F-117 stealth technology is based on research done in USSR

That's like saying that all Soviet technology is based on research done in UK and France. You know: Newton, Lavoisier, Pascal, Boyle, Joule...

> happily took a ride in the first MiG-29s delivered to us in the 1980s and "stole" technology from there

Take a ride == stole technology?

Are you serious?

> a lot of excellent engineers and scientist that worked on technology in USSR.

Name me THREE scientific achievements "made in USSR" which ordinary people still use in their daily lives.

No, AK machine gun will not do. And sputnik is no go as well - nobody listens to radio beeps nowadays.

Can you? Just three of them? Surely, 70 years of scientific achievements will do wonders, right?

> That is probably why USSR had nuclear weapons

Blueprints stolen from USA.

> and space technology

_borrowed_ (wink, wink) from Germans.

What numerous factors are you talking about? Did they got a mention in emperor's address?

Yes. But if atomic bombs were mentioned as a reason for surrender, why you're calling it a myth?

Ю it disproves the myth (used to justify the atom bombs) that only being nuked forced them to consider surrender.

How is this a myth if nukes were mentioned in emperor's address as a reason to surrender?

> fashion on HN is to complain about the US at every opportunity -- even within an article about North Korea

See "Whataboutism"

> then ended up accepting the Japanese condition anyway

What?? Japan was forced to accept Allies' condition.

> The US response was to carpet bomb Japanese cities full of civilians, carpet bomb foreign cities held by Japan holding civilians and citizens of foreign nations, etc... then to top it off, they felt fully justified to drop two nuclear bombs on two cities full of civilians in Japan to teach East-Asia a lesson.

Looks like your perception of history is... a little bit skewed.

> The point of Wikileaks is to publish, after all.

So how many anti-Putin materials were published there?