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Re:The Art of Writing One-Sentence Product Descriptions by gnicholas on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @04:41PM (#14142714)
For better or worse, some people really want to hear your "We're the X for Y". My startup [1] isn't the X for any Y (the closest thing I've found is "we're the Dolby for reading" — but this is not a close fit and makes people think too hard), but I've heard from many mentors/investors that I should try hard to come up with an "X for Y" comparison because they and their colleagues like to hear them.

I agree with you that these summaries are sometimes quite awful, but in some cases they are quite apt. The conclusion I've come to is that if a very good analogy exists, you should use it. But the bar for "very good" should be quite high, since a bad "X for Y" will do more harm than good. You end up in meta-conversations about the analogy itself, which isn't helpful.

1: http://www.BeeLineReader.com

Re:The Art of Writing One-Sentence Product Descriptions by CalChris on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @05:05PM (#14142917)
With a summary, you're trying to get a value proposition across succinctly. And I (as in this is my opinion) don't think you can do that with X for Y.

  You push a button and in five minutes a Mercedes
  picks you up and takes you where you want to go.
I know exactly what that means. I immediately see the value in it.

As you say but this is not a close fit and makes people think too hard. That means they can't immediately see the value in it. That means you have to keep working on it. Bailey didn't say this was gonna be easy.

BTW, the Kalanick summary personalizes brilliantly and name checking Mercedes sure doesn't hurt. The later Uber summary (“Tap a button, get a ride.”) does nothing for me. I only vaguely know what it even means because I already know it's about Uber. It could be talking about an FPS for all I know. Still, it is better than an iPhone app for taxis.

But the bar for "very good" should be quite high. That's an awesome line.

Re:The Art of Writing One-Sentence Product Descriptions by wtvanhest on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @05:40PM (#14143204)
Maybe someone from YC wants to chime in, but I noticed a pattern the other day when looking at their product descriptions.

http://yclist.com/

Look at the difference in F1 going forward...

Re:The Art of Writing One-Sentence Product Descriptions by brusch64 on Wednesday April 19, 2017 @02:48AM (#14145979)
and that shows exactly my problem with the one sentence analogies: "we're the Dolby for reading".

The first thing I know about Dolby is the noise suppression technology for tapes. So you are noise suppression for reading ? Well, that didn't work.

Next thing I'm thinking of is Dolby surround. But I can't think about how surround sound should work with reading.

I look at your webpage and now I know your product. But "we're the Dolby for reading" didn't help me at all in understanding your product.

Most of the time on hackernews when I'm reading "We're the X for Y" I have to google X first to understand what they're trying to say with this sentence.

Re:The Art of Writing One-Sentence Product Descriptions by gnicholas on Wednesday April 19, 2017 @11:42AM (#14148510)
You're right — this is a terrible analogy from a customer perspective. I only ever use it if pressed by a VC who wants to know how our business model will work. There aren't many tech (non-biotech) that get most of their revenue from licensing, so Dolby it is. But the analogy only "works" in the context of a discussion about business models.
Re:The Art of Writing One-Sentence Product Descriptions by dalbasal on Wednesday April 19, 2017 @09:17AM (#14147457)
I think you're on the money, there isn't a good "A for B" analogy.

That said, I like formulas for this sort of thing, whther they yield the final solution or not. Uber's sentence from the article could be an alternative:

"You push a button and in five minutes a Mercedes picks you up and takes you where you want to go."

"You push a button and you can read 26.4% faster."

That still feels a little vague and evasive, I think.

"You push a button and your book is re-formatted and coloured so that you can read faster."

If you have to have an anology, you could try. "A yad for ebooks."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yad

Re:The Art of Writing One-Sentence Product Descriptions by traviscj on Wednesday April 19, 2017 @09:47AM (#14147644)
I don't think the formula makes sense with "A" you have to include the Wikipedia link to. The point of "the uber for y" or "the apple of x" is that it plays off of our deep seated awareness of uber and Apple. Do I want to be a yad? I don't know.
Re:The Art of Writing One-Sentence Product Descriptions by davesuperman on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @07:37PM (#14144087)
To help people position your product in their heads effectively, points of parity (e.g. analogies) and points of difference are very useful.

The 'X for Y' is a way to express both at once "it's like X but it's different because it focuses on Y". However, as you say, it only works well in limited situations and can come off as very cliché.

During customer development, I recommend leading with the input / output description and then letting the recipient clarify using their own 'point of parity'.