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Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by giancarlostoro on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @11:32AM (#14139673)
Fun fact: Barbecue can be traced to it's Caribbean origins as barbacoa:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbacoa

Disclaimer, my ancestral heritage is from Puerto Rico.

Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by fnord123 on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @11:47AM (#14139812)
The word, yes. Slow cooking meat as a concept, however, is too pervasive and general a concept to be traced to any single time/place (imo).
Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by compyman on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @11:54AM (#14139862)
The specific event (i.e. having a barbecue) is a direct descendant from the Caribbean practice. It actually goes over this in the article, along with a very brief description of how barbecues have been used a political events since the founding of the country.
Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by guelo on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @12:35PM (#14140256)
That etymology seems unlikely since Puerto Rican cuisine has nothing that resembles that style of food.
Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by giancarlostoro on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @04:22PM (#14142533)
The Tainos were the natives of not only Puerto Rico, but they're mostly gone now. I have a few relatives who are partly Taino, even my great grandmother was a full native to Puerto Rico. To clarify further the Tainos were not only Puerto Rican natives, they were also native to parts of South America (north east), Cuba, Jamaica, and Hispaniola (Haiti / Dominican Republic). It would be incorrect to attribute it to Puerto Rico itself, thus I attribute it to the Caribbean where they were natives. I'm sure it's been done elsewhere, but it became widespread in the southern states first according to Time:

http://time.com/3957444/barbecue/

Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by dforrestwilson1 on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @12:04PM (#14139956)
I have eaten at Maurice's several times (it is delicious), but never knew the history. Confederate flags are common at businesses throughout the region, so it's hard to single out Maurice's as an outlier in this regard. Still an interesting read that will make me rethink whether to eat there.
Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by dagenleg on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @12:14PM (#14140044)
The article has a certain vibe which reminds be of USSR's political persecutions.It's pretty disturbing how the author heavily implies that the children have to undergo some kind of renunciation ceremony in order to atone for the ideological beliefs of their father.

Perhaps a more fitting title for the article would be "Ancestral sin: an excessively long article about confederate flags and white privilege, with bits of historical moralization"

Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by anentropic on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @12:51PM (#14140434)
That's interesting. Do you generally have trouble with reading comprehension skills?
Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by actuallyalys on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @12:35PM (#14140257)
To me, this article seemed more about how political barbecue can be. It's equivocal about what the children should do, and never really answers the question of whether it's okay to eat at the restaurant again.

You might think that it's obvious that the children have no obligation whatsoever, but that doesn't make contrary opinions political persecution, even in vibe.

Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by davidw on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @12:09PM (#14139993)
Being from Oregon, I had no idea until much later in life how diverse different styles of BBQ are.

There's some interesting coverage of BBQ as an exception to the homogenous, fast-food culture in the US in Tyler Cowen's book "An Economist Gets Lunch": http://amzn.to/2nZDa0k

Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by DanCarvajal on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @11:27AM (#14139625)
Kansas City BBQ is the most overrated food in America.
Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by ashark on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @01:59PM (#14141192)
As a local I would agree that 1) most KC barbecue joints are unremarkable, and 2) even done right it's good, but not "OMG I've never had meat so delicious" good. Still, though: good.

I recommend Q39 and Joe's KC to people visiting who want the good stuff. Just picking any ol' place that says it serves KC barbecue is a recipe for disappointment (goes double for anything at the airport or Crown Center). You'd be better off picking a random Mexican restaurant here than a random barbecue joint. YMMV.

[EDIT] incidentally we have a surprisingly decent food scene, and most of it's not barbecue, so don't limit yourself to that if you visit.

Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by alexgaribay on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @11:48AM (#14139823)
Kansas City isn't even mentioned in the article...
Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by mcphage on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @11:28AM (#14139636)
That's... not what this article is about.
Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by thieving_magpie on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @12:01PM (#14139936)
But it needed to be said.
Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by bradleyjg on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @12:05PM (#14139970)
De gustibus non est disputandum.
Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by hellogoodbyeeee on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @11:57AM (#14139889)
What experience are you basing this opinion off of?

Regional differences in food is one of the great things about the US.

Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by devopsproject on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @11:28AM (#14139629)
The kids had decades to disassociate. They chose the money. Let them rot.
Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by jstanley on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @11:23AM (#14139563)
Pretty sure this is a submarine marketing piece, but I'm not entirely sure who would be paying for it. Is there a cartel of companies that sell barbecue food in America???
Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by jobigoud on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @11:39AM (#14139754)
Meat industry consortiums afraid of vegan/vegetarian trends?
Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by compyman on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @11:42AM (#14139778)
Regional BBQ joints are afraid customers will forget their white supremacist past?
Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by nightcracker on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @11:29AM (#14139653)
This is probably the most boring submission I've seen (read: skimmed through) on Hacker News in a while. I'm not criticizing writing style or quality here, just the topic seems so incredibly 'un-hackerish' that I'm puzzled how it got so many upvotes.
Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by camtarn on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @11:57AM (#14139891)
Submitter here. I am amused and puzzled as well. Apparently people care more about barbecue than they do about the more 'hacker-ish' things I've submitted. I've long since given up trying to predict the tastes of HN voters - nowadays I just submit anything I find personally interesting.
Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by camtarn on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @12:10PM (#14140005)
Ha. And now it's been flagged off the front page. Apparently people both like and hate stories about barbecue! Fascinating.
Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by nommm-nommm on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @11:50AM (#14139834)
I disagree, I found this submission to be entertaining and informative.
Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by strictnein on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @11:33AM (#14139680)
I didn't upvote it, but by its title, I thought it was going to mostly be about how different regions have different style BBQ. And those regions generally have a strong dislike for the other regions' styles.
Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by douche on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @11:33AM (#14139687)
Stupid articles from the New Yorker always seem to hit the front page, no matter what they are about.
Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by throwanem on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @11:41AM (#14139775)
Going to throw out a guess that it's got something to do with this buried lede:

> Lexington County, which encompasses all but one of the dozen Piggie Park restaurants now in operation, remains a bedrock of hard-right politics.

Also: Confederate flags, awful Southern white people, and some folks who moved down from PG County buying property from the latter and looking to get rid of the former. Is it too blithe to say "culture war, move on"?

Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by SEJeff on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @12:16PM (#14140068)
Being southern or "from the south" and white does not make one automatically awful. That kind of stereotyping is literally what found us in such a political mess and should be discouraged. Please knock it off. If you were to say awful racist white people, I'd agree, but shockingly, there are plenty of awful racist white people in the north as well as the south, they're just louder down south.

Note: I'm white, from the south, am a veteran, also tend to lean liberal and work as a software engineer in the 3rd biggest city in the US. I think of myself as progressive and voted for Gary Johnson this election.

Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by throwanem on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @12:49PM (#14140411)
I suppose I could've made it more clear that I was characterizing the article's take, rather than expressing one of my own. I'm a Mississippi son myself.
Re:Barbecue: America's Most Political Food by SEJeff on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @10:26PM (#14144999)
Ah my bad. I have to constantly correct people who equate southern with stupid. It gets old.