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Re:Biomedical companies bleed 500k horseshoe crabs a year by Baeocystin on Monday April 17, 2017 @12:29PM (#14132188)
They drain a third of its blood, and they could easily be drawing from an animal that has already been recently caught. They can be out of water for days. Comparing this to a minor inconvenience is a deeply inaccurate analogy.
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Re:Biomedical companies bleed 500k horseshoe crabs a year by dang on Monday April 17, 2017 @01:31PM (#14132784)
> is asinine

This breaks the HN guideline against calling names in arguments: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. Please don't do that in comments here, or edit it out when it slips in.

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Re:Biomedical companies bleed 500k horseshoe crabs a year by msandford on Monday April 17, 2017 @01:49PM (#14132931)
So while I understand your sentiment I actually have to respectfully disagree. There's a difference between calling an argument foolish and calling a person foolish.

"Comparing this to a minor inconvenience is intellectually dishonest" <- rough paraphrasing of the comment

vs

"I read what you wrote, you are intellectually dishonest" <- a true attack against a person

The comment may not have been terribly civil (and that's a good reason for criticism) but I honestly don't see it as name calling.

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Re:Biomedical companies bleed 500k horseshoe crabs a year by shortimer on Monday April 17, 2017 @01:56PM (#14132980)
The guideline doesn't say "don't call people names"; they say "don't call names." Here's the text:

When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. E.g. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3."

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Re:Biomedical companies bleed 500k horseshoe crabs a year by Baeocystin on Monday April 17, 2017 @02:33PM (#14133263)
That is my point of view as well. I changed it to your paraphrasing, though.
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Re:Biomedical companies bleed 500k horseshoe crabs a year by dang on Monday April 17, 2017 @02:40PM (#14133303)
'Intellectually dishonest' is still name-calling in the sense of being a generic pejorative that adds no information. So it still breaks that guideline. As shortimer pointed out, it isn't about personal attacks. Personal attacks are certainly not ok here, but other things are not ok too.

The guideline contains practical advice for how to edit the name-calling out of these things: simply shorten them. In this case, "Comparing X to Y is intellectually dishonest [or asinine]" can be shortened to "X is not Y".

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Re:Biomedical companies bleed 500k horseshoe crabs a year by msandford on Monday April 17, 2017 @03:01PM (#14133496)
Ah, that makes much more sense then! Thanks for the clarification.
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Re:Biomedical companies bleed 500k horseshoe crabs a year by Baeocystin on Monday April 17, 2017 @02:45PM (#14133348)
Is there a rate limit on editing? I can no longer change my post, but I will keep this in mind.

[edit] - Appreciated.

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Re:Biomedical companies bleed 500k horseshoe crabs a year by dang on Monday April 17, 2017 @02:47PM (#14133361)
There is (2 hours) but I'll turn it off that post above.
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Re:Biomedical companies bleed 500k horseshoe crabs a year by ajryan on Monday April 17, 2017 @04:47PM (#14134292)
They mark the crabs' shells so they aren't bled more than once per season.
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Re:Biomedical companies bleed 500k horseshoe crabs a year by mikepurvis on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @12:29PM (#14140200)
That's good to know; I was wondering if it would be possible to do something like that. Obviously it requires the cooperation of everyone doing this to ensure that the marks are made correctly, and respected.
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