Re:Electron is flash for the desktop (2016)
by nojvek on Tuesday April 11, 2017 @11:45AM
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By walking just one day a year than taking my car, I can offset the electricity consumed by my laptop.
You do have a point though. You make a difference where you can.
Re:Electron is flash for the desktop (2016)
by pharrington on Tuesday April 11, 2017 @03:42PM
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The problem is that despite how good it feels, individuals simply optimizing their individual activity does not scale to the societal scope. Post-agrarian humans literally behave and think via shared infrastructure. The only way individuals can make lasting improvements to society is to improve the infrastructure.
Re:Electron is flash for the desktop (2016)
by Rapzid on Tuesday April 11, 2017 @04:35PM
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Individuals changing their behaviour can lead to societal change though.
Re:Electron is flash for the desktop (2016)
by pharrington on Tuesday April 11, 2017 @05:02PM
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Yes, but you are talking about contingencies. Optimism over dice rolls cannot excuse wasteful systems.
Re:Electron is flash for the desktop (2016)
by Rapzid on Tuesday April 11, 2017 @10:35PM
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I'm talking about how nearly all progressive progress progresses. It swells up from individuals.
Re:Electron is flash for the desktop (2016)
by TeMPOraL on Wednesday April 12, 2017 @08:00AM
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Does it? Or maybe those individual pop up and do their progressive thing only when existing infrastructure and technological landscape lets them do that?
Why they haven't made Slack a web based chat app like Discord or Wire or even Skype is beyond me. I don't even use their native apps, just open a tab in my browser and run the corresponding web app.
Re:Electron is flash for the desktop (2016)
by jnwatson on Tuesday April 11, 2017 @03:51PM
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They already do, just not on mobile.
Re:Electron is flash for the desktop (2016)
by copperx on Tuesday April 11, 2017 @09:41PM
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I don't get it. If slack.com is a web-based chat, why doesn't the OP open Slack on his existing instance of Chrome?
Re:Electron is flash for the desktop (2016)
by pseudalopex on Wednesday April 12, 2017 @12:53AM
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"Along with the features available in your browser, the app loads your conversations more quickly, gives you more control over notifications, and has better support for multiple teams."[1]
Also, the app gets its own entry in the task switcher.
[1] https://get.slack.help/hc/en-us/articles/207677868-Slack-for...
Re:Electron is flash for the desktop (2016)
by jancsika on Tuesday April 11, 2017 @12:29PM
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> Put in a somewhat comedic tone: low-performance software contributes to climate change.
Number of developers who would donate the increased efficiency to "idle": $denominator.
Number of developers who would fill the increased efficiency with more triangles: $numerator.
I'd argue $numerator is sufficiently large that the premise of your joke doesn't hold.
Precisely. I don't use Slack in part because its desktop application is irrationally bloated for its use-case. Although I have other reasons as well, they are enduring a cost--a small one to be sure, but presumably non-trivial in aggregate--in people refusing to use their service in part because their desktop application is poor.
But I do agree with the general emotion underlying the frustration of "externalities" here. As someone who advocates for high-performance and efficient web applications, I have toyed with the question of whether developers should confront the morality of wasting energy by having selected poor/low-performance platforms. Put in a somewhat comedic tone: low-performance software contributes to climate change.