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Re:Uber finds one allegedly stolen Waymo file on an employee... by life_on_mars on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @10:42PM (#14047503)
So from what I understand, Google is litigating this in public, but their lawyers, such as Mr. Verhoeven, are redacting everything on their side they don't want public. This makes it sound like Google is doing this in public mainly to hurt Uber as much as possible in the court of public opinion. Am I wrong in interpreting Google's actions this way?

Sounds like this and many other conflicts Google had with Mr. Lewandowsky over the years should have been dealt with in arbitration. This just looks like Google acting out a vendetta against Mr. Lewandowsky. They tolerated his actions when he worked for them and even after he left to work for himself, but turned against him once he joined a competitor.

While on paper, it doesn't appear that Mr. Lewandowsky is a saint, Google doesn't look good here either. Google's behavior here should give any engineer pause about considering Google as a place to work. California doesn't allow non-compete agreements, and this looks like Google attempting to achieve the effects of a non-compete through litigation. "If we can't hire and keep Mr. Lewandowsky, then we'll make sure our competitors can't either."

Re:Uber finds one allegedly stolen Waymo file on an employee... by hn_throwaway_99 on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @10:50PM (#14047538)
A vendetta against Mr. Levandowski? Google paid him $120 million, and he then took that same technology for another multi hundred million dollar payday from Uber. Mr. Levandowski's avarice is basically something I can't really comprehend.
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Re:Uber finds one allegedly stolen Waymo file on an employee... by hn_throwaway_99 on Thursday April 06, 2017 @01:14AM (#14048103)
> The more I read about Uber, the more I get the impression that it's the best place to work today if you actually want to build the future fast.

Is there some sort of bizarro universe version of Hacker News that has been publishing "Uber is an awesome place to work!" articles?

Re:Uber finds one allegedly stolen Waymo file on an employee... by lovich on Thursday April 06, 2017 @12:17AM (#14047899)
It'd be a lot easier to believe he only had noble goals if he didnt get multiple 9 figure pay days out of it.
Re:Uber finds one allegedly stolen Waymo file on an employee... by dlgeek on Thursday April 06, 2017 @03:26AM (#14048620)
> So from what I understand, Google is litigating this in public, but their lawyers, such as Mr. Verhoeven, are redacting everything on their side they don't want public. This makes it sound like Google is doing this in public mainly to hurt Uber as much as possible in the court of public opinion. Am I wrong in interpreting Google's actions this way?

If you keep reading, they touch on that several times. It sounds like Uber's lawyers complained to the judge and Google complained "Hey, you didn't ask us first" and then the judge yelled at Uber.

It's complicated by the fact that there are multiple suits going on, both the public lawsuit and some sort of arbitration, and Google has different lawyers representing them for the others.

In the end of the transcript of the session the quote is from, Google was saying they were only trying to redact sensitive PII in the employment agreement (the document that they were arguing about) like name, address, salary, etc. and everyone was OK with that.