Re:Dolphins' elaborate octopus-hunting strategy
by brokenmachine on Thursday April 06, 2017 @02:11AM
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I don't really understand the conclusion here.
I could eat babies and they would keep me alive. How does one tell if they are able to "integrate" their food without the baby nature "manifesting itself"?
Re:Dolphins' elaborate octopus-hunting strategy
by astrange on Friday April 07, 2017 @03:08AM
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You would be physically alive, but not spiritually yourself. Although I suppose you wouldn't be a baby either way.
Re:Dolphins' elaborate octopus-hunting strategy
by brokenmachine on Thursday April 13, 2017 @12:02AM
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Wouldn't that baby-eating version of me become the new "spiritually myself" version?
Not the same as me now because currently I'm not eating babies, but it would be the new me.
Even if I never start eating babies, I'm still not the same person a year from now.
"You" is a very fluid concept.
Re:Dolphins' elaborate octopus-hunting strategy
by louthy on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @08:08PM
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This is one of those standard sanctimonious vegan arguments. With no basis in reality. This isn't a perspective, it's just nonsense.
Re:Dolphins' elaborate octopus-hunting strategy
by virtuabhi on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @08:23PM
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Perspective is a point of view. This perspective definitely has no basis in hard science (as of today) but is not "nonsense". To decide whether to eat an animal or not is an ethical/moral question (unless the animal is poisonous). This model allows you to answer that question. Also models like this are quite common, for example - karma, meditation, etc.
And, this idea is in Western civilization too. Look at the origins of the phrase - "you are what you eat".
"Sadhguru: Now, if you eat a mango, this mango becomes a woman in you. If I eat a mango, the same mango becomes a man in me. If a cow eats a mango, the same mango becomes a cow in the cow. Why is this happening? There is a certain information or software in you – whatever you eat it transforms it into a woman. If I eat, it transforms into a man. If a cow eats, that becomes a cow. So every life is happening the way it is happening because of a certain dimension of information or in modern terminology, let’s call it software. There is a certain software, which is an arrangement of information.
Now, the idea is to eat as simple a software as possible. If you eat that kind of life, which is a very simple software, your ability to override that software and make it entirely a part of you is very good. As that software gets complex, more and more complex, your ability to integrate it goes down. So, especially if it’s a creature which has some sense of thought and emotion, if it has emotion, then you should not eat it. This is the understanding. An animal, which has any emotion, displays certain emotions… especially if it displays emotion which is near to human emotion, you should not eat it because it will not integrate itself. That animal nature will start manifesting itself."
- From http://isha.sadhguru.org/blog/video/basis-for-beef-ban/