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Re:DOJ Cautions Employers Seeking H-1B Visas Not to Discrimi... by negrit on Monday April 03, 2017 @06:21PM (#14027753)
The consulting firms have been abusing the H-1B system for years. I've been documenting it for couple years here: http://www.jobsintech.io/immigration_companies#name=&city=&s...

You can clearly see that the top companies using H-1B visas are consulting firms.

Re:DOJ Cautions Employers Seeking H-1B Visas Not to Discrimi... by lifesucks1 on Monday April 03, 2017 @09:45PM (#14028892)
Someone posted this link. https://www.uscis.gov/working-united-states/temporary-worker...

There are whole IT divisions where there is not a single US citizen or GC holder. Tell me how can one distinguish between projects where the whole project members are H1B holders. Do you expect anyone to complain?

The whole thing feels like a april fools joke to me....

Re:DOJ Cautions Employers Seeking H-1B Visas Not to Discrimi... by mavelikara on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @12:08AM (#14029418)
If there are reasons to complain, _both_ H-1B holders and others are encouraged to complain. But just because some projects are staffed with H-1Bs, there is no indication of foul play. From the link you posted:

    Examples of H-1B fraud indicators may include:

    * The H-1B worker is not or will not be paid the wage certified on the
      Labor Condition Application (LCA).
    * There is a wage disparity between H-1B workers and other workers 
      performing the same or similar duties, particularly to the detriment 
      of U.S. workers.
    * The H-1B worker is not performing the duties specified in the H-1B 
      petition, including when the duties are at a higher level than the 
      position description.
    * The H-1B worker has less experience than U.S. workers in similar 
      positions in the same company.
    * The H-1B worker is not working in the intended location as certified 
      on the LCA.
Re:DOJ Cautions Employers Seeking H-1B Visas Not to Discrimi... by tn135 on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @01:53AM (#14029879)
Our entire company including founders are people on H1B. If USCIS harasses us we will move to Canada or some place else.
Re:DOJ Cautions Employers Seeking H-1B Visas Not to Discrimi... by doktrin on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @05:14AM (#14030770)
Being located in the US but staffed 100% from overseas sounds strange. Did you guys make a conscious decision to exclude US born workers?

Moreover, please walk me through your "I'll take my ball and go to Canada" ultimatum : if you don't employ a single American, why should Americans care about this particular threat? Are your contributions to the local economy that significant?

Re:DOJ Cautions Employers Seeking H-1B Visas Not to Discrimi... by tn135 on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @06:51PM (#14046409)
There is no threat to anyone here.

We were 5 students from different countries who came here and started the company. Being almost bootstrapped company and pretty small one we had a hard time hiring people who would both pass our bar and willing to work for us. For all the low end work we would simply outsource it to India/Pakistan/Russia and other countries.

>why should Americans care about this particular threat ?

No one needs to care about anything. It is just that we will leave. It is upto Americans to wonder if are worth anything. May be Americans will be better off with it somehow I do not know. But the problem is more business, revenue and potential growth that would move out of the borders permanently.

Re:DOJ Cautions Employers Seeking H-1B Visas Not to Discrimi... by gambiting on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @06:20AM (#14031086)
Surely they pay taxes locally, no?
Re:DOJ Cautions Employers Seeking H-1B Visas Not to Discrimi... by daodedickinson on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @10:30AM (#14032971)
Like Apple? lol
Re:DOJ Cautions Employers Seeking H-1B Visas Not to Discrimi... by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @02:26AM (#14030032)
If they are ALL on H1Bs, then why are they located in the states at all? I'm pro immigration (and H1B), but that just seems weird.
Re:DOJ Cautions Employers Seeking H-1B Visas Not to Discrimi... by throwasehasdwi on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @10:04AM (#14032664)
so they can reap the benefits of US investment?
Re:DOJ Cautions Employers Seeking H-1B Visas Not to Discrimi... by tn135 on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @06:53PM (#14046424)
Following reasons :

Almost all employees are from different countries India, China, Japan and UK. There are very few places on earth where we could have met as students. It is a co-incident. If we were studying at Singapore University we would have setup our company there.

Re:DOJ Cautions Employers Seeking H-1B Visas Not to Discrimi... by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @12:25PM (#14034419)
It just doesn't seem what the H1B was meant for.
Re:DOJ Cautions Employers Seeking H-1B Visas Not to Discrimi... by throwasehasdwi on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @01:52PM (#14044036)
It isn't :)
Re:DOJ Cautions Employers Seeking H-1B Visas Not to Discrimi... by yardie on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @03:27AM (#14030289)
Umm that doesn't seem possible. The H1b is an employment visa. As in someone literally has to employ you. Are you sure they're not on EB1?
Re:DOJ Cautions Employers Seeking H-1B Visas Not to Discrimi... by dukeluke on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @07:54AM (#14031571)
Companies pull this kind of stuff, then wonder why there is a push back against globalization. Americans need to benefit from globalization, too! If most American work is displaced by foreigners, it really screws our society and economy, amplifying inequality to insane levels.
Re:DOJ Cautions Employers Seeking H-1B Visas Not to Discrimi... by briandear on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @03:05AM (#14030198)
How are the founders on H1B? That's a temporary worker visa that requires employment sponsorship. An EB1 would be the more appropriate visa. If the founders are sponsoring their own visa -- well that would be a neat trick.

As far as the entire company being H1B -- is it even possible that not a single American was available for a job?

H1B is heavily abused.

Re:DOJ Cautions Employers Seeking H-1B Visas Not to Discrimi... by btbuilder on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @03:27AM (#14030288)
It's perfectly legal now to be a founder on an H1B if there is a way for the "company" to fire any individual. Establishing a board of directors with investors or having 3 co founders so that any 2 can fire the third.
Re:DOJ Cautions Employers Seeking H-1B Visas Not to Discrimi... by kevin_thibedeau on Monday April 03, 2017 @10:57PM (#14029160)
A simple solution for the consulting companies would be a rule requiring all H-1B sponsors to have at least 51% of their domestic staff be US citizens. That would ruin the wacked out business model of the body shops and return to a fair playing field for Americans in their own country.
Re:DOJ Cautions Employers Seeking H-1B Visas Not to Discrimi... by anarazel on Monday April 03, 2017 @11:48PM (#14029325)
Not sure if that's sufficient, but I wanted to answer to your "Americans..." comment: This isn't just an issue for Americans, it's also bad for actually highly qualified foreigners and other companies. Because a few companies gobble up all the visas, the rest have to go through the lottery. Which actually makes it hard to hire highly qualified immigrants, because it takes agrees to see of you're lucky.

I've been through this, and it sucks. In the end I got another type of visa, but that cost a lot of energy and money.

Re:DOJ Cautions Employers Seeking H-1B Visas Not to Discrimi... by guitarbill on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @07:31AM (#14031461)
Couldn't agree more. If anything, a lottery system encourages spamming candidates whatever quality over carefully selecting high quality candidates.

Plus, nothing says "Welcome" than waiting several months for a decision in the visa purgatory. So that also discourages high quality applicants who have other choices.

Re:DOJ Cautions Employers Seeking H-1B Visas Not to Discrimi... by an_cap on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @09:25AM (#14032304)
A simple solution for the consulting companies would be a rule requiring all employers to have at least 51% of their domestic staff be Native-Americans. That would ruin the whacked out business model of the body shops and return to a fair playing field for Native-Americans in their own country.
Re:DOJ Cautions Employers Seeking H-1B Visas Not to Discrimi... by ConfuciusSay02 on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @12:51PM (#14034746)
The point of the program was to employ individuals with unique and exceptional skills that were otherwise not found, at all, in the country.

The point is NOT to have 49% of your staff be H1B's in order to reduce costs.

The original rules were fine, let's just get some enforcement, including on the facilitators: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU

Re:DOJ Cautions Employers Seeking H-1B Visas Not to Discrimi... by mavelikara on Monday April 03, 2017 @09:41PM (#14028871)
Between large outsourcing companies (TCS, Infy, Cognizant, IBM etc) and American staffing companies (Edison-based "desi body shops" etc) - who uses H-1Bs more, in your analysis?
Re:DOJ Cautions Employers Seeking H-1B Visas Not to Discrimi... by EduardoBautista on Monday April 03, 2017 @06:52PM (#14027984)
Why are green card and h1-b numbers all equal?
Re:DOJ Cautions Employers Seeking H-1B Visas Not to Discrimi... by negrit on Monday April 03, 2017 @07:10PM (#14028105)
Good catch. Fixing it right now