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Re:Scientists want to create ‘red teams’ to challenge climat... by waderyan on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @02:34PM (#13989214)
Reminds me of "My Unhappy Life as a Climate Heretic" https://wn.wsj.com/stories/c81eb3c4-e367-4087-93aa-1f90b5de1...

Professor Pielke (his words) "was under constant attack for years by activists, journalists and politicians." The pressure to stop asking critical questions became overwhelming.

Seems there could be a place for viewpoints that don't go with the consensus, especially in an arena that is so highly politicized.

Re:Scientists want to create ‘red teams’ to challenge climat... by drewbuschhorn on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @02:52PM (#13989409)
Just to be clear, Pielke is also in the op article testifying to the panel. So obviously there already is a place for his viewpoints, and given all the other people testifying have jobs as well, places for their viewpoints also. Part of being a scientist is accepting that every publication can end your career if you get it really wrong.

This isn't science camp. If you `rm -rf /` a live server, you should have your actions evaluated carefully to see why that happened and if you acted appropriately. Professional science is the same, if you can't prove your case then there are consequences, saying you're right because you're being picked on doesn't cut it.

Re:Scientists want to create ‘red teams’ to challenge climat... by davesque on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @02:41PM (#13989274)
But it's not a political issue. How politicized it is shouldn't matter.
Re:Scientists want to create ‘red teams’ to challenge climat... by adameast9000 on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @02:48PM (#13989366)
In a perfect world yes, but lots of scientific disciplines are heavily influenced by politics and public opinion in terms of funding, University support, etc. We can't pretend it doesn't matter
Re:Scientists want to create ‘red teams’ to challenge climat... by splawn on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @02:50PM (#13989391)
It doesn't matter to the supporting data. Thermometers don't run off of opinion. I guess that is what we need to convince people? lol
Re:Scientists want to create ‘red teams’ to challenge climat... by seewhatIsee on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @02:54PM (#13989428)
The money to fund the thermostats may depend on opinion.
Re:Scientists want to create ‘red teams’ to challenge climat... by splawn on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @03:17PM (#13989643)
In a fantasy world complete with international conspirators with god-like powers..... sure. If you don't like my use of the word "fantasy" then by all means provide some evidence.
Re:Scientists want to create ‘red teams’ to challenge climat... by jjn2009 on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @02:48PM (#13989368)
These studies effect government policies. Any debate of facts which effect government policies is political.
Re:Scientists want to create ‘red teams’ to challenge climat... by YCode on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @05:24PM (#13990706)
We define how "political" an issue is precisely by how politicized it has become.

I agree that it shouldn't matter, but unfortunately it does and (ironically!) we can't pretend things are different just because that better suits our point of view.

Re:Scientists want to create ‘red teams’ to challenge climat... by throwanem on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @02:47PM (#13989337)
There's power to be had by convincing people. It's political.
Re:Scientists want to create ‘red teams’ to challenge climat... by alistproducer2 on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @02:50PM (#13989385)
How is this the top comment? The use of the word heretic in the article subtly implies the consensus on climate change is based on faith and not tons and tons of research. It's not that there is no place for different viewpoints, there just comes a time when the burden of proof for contrarian research becomes so high that most of it never clears the bar.
Re:Scientists want to create ‘red teams’ to challenge climat... by cortesoft on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @02:52PM (#13989408)
Yeah, I have been spending YEARS arguing for my Flat Earth theory, but I am constantly under attack for my alternate views! There should be a place for my viewpoints!
Re:Scientists want to create ‘red teams’ to challenge climat... by sctb on Thursday March 30, 2017 @02:28PM (#13997716)
Please don't post deliberately inflammatory sarcasm, that's jet fuel for flamewars.
Re:Scientists want to create ‘red teams’ to challenge climat... by splawn on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @02:45PM (#13989319)
When a line of questioning flat out ignores huge amounts of evidence then it can not be considered "critical".