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Re:UK triggers the official Brexit process in a letter to EU by hiddencost on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @12:48PM (#13988105)
^-- Submarine argument of the current white nationalist movement. Basic flaw: it elides "the wants of white nationalists" with "the culture of the country" and tries to imply that the wants of white nationalists are the only one that exists.

A subset of people are being prodded to give up their sovereignty; a significant chunk of folks in the UK actually wanted the EU, most notably immigrants, students, young folks.

Re:UK triggers the official Brexit process in a letter to EU by afandian on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @12:58PM (#13988241)
As a British citizen I have more in common culturally with my German, Swedish, Austrian, Spanish, Danish, French etc friends and colleagues than I feel with a large chunk of my own country.

The people who tell me that I should be patriotic and culturally identify with them as British are the people I'd want to run a million miles from.

Re:UK triggers the official Brexit process in a letter to EU by lordnacho on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @03:42PM (#13989860)
Of course. Who doesn't have more in common with actual people they've befriended and worked with, as opposed to a nebulous notion of nationality?

But that isn't a basis for political decisions. The fact that you like the people that you're friends with is no reason to be in or out of the EU.

I presume you have friends who aren't from the EU as well, yet surely you do not believe in closer integration with those countries?

I have a similarly diverse group of friends, but it makes very little difference to what I think politically. For one, I doubt they'll be kicked out, but also I can't make decisions about politics based on a few individuals I happen to know.

Re:UK triggers the official Brexit process in a letter to EU by afandian on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @04:18PM (#13990178)
I was going to say that I made no claim about the role of culture and cultural identity in political decisions, but left it out. I was making a narrow point, and don't neccesarily disagree with yours.
Re:UK triggers the official Brexit process in a letter to EU by arethuza on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @01:35PM (#13988658)
Great comment - I wish I could vote this up more than once.
Re:UK triggers the official Brexit process in a letter to EU by the-dude on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @02:53PM (#13989424)
Oh, big thanks from The Netherlands!
Re:UK triggers the official Brexit process in a letter to EU by random_comment on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @04:45PM (#13990403)
He didn't actually mention the Dutch ;-)
Re:UK triggers the official Brexit process in a letter to EU by afandian on Thursday March 30, 2017 @04:41AM (#13993819)
Sorry! I would have done if I'd had Dutch friends.
Re:UK triggers the official Brexit process in a letter to EU by rikkus on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @05:03PM (#13990575)
Then I will. Hi friends in the Netherlands!
Re:UK triggers the official Brexit process in a letter to EU by meitham on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @01:30PM (#13988613)
I wish I could upvote you 100 times.
Re:UK triggers the official Brexit process in a letter to EU by whiskers on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @02:11PM (#13989002)
Hear, hear.
Re:UK triggers the official Brexit process in a letter to EU by rayiner on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @01:24PM (#13988535)
That's a myopic and ignorant view. Not all nationalism is "white nationalism," and nationalism is often a strongly positive force. For example, in places like Bangladesh, Egypt, and Turkey, nationalism is the force opposing theocracy. Israeli nationalism has allowed them to carve out a relatively liberal democracy in a region that's hostile to it. (It's also a bizarre charge to level at U.K. nationalism, given that the U.K. is less white than the E.U. as a whole. Moreover, Indians - the largest non-white ethnic group in the U.K. - voted leave/remain along class lines, like whites: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world...).
Re:UK triggers the official Brexit process in a letter to EU by cat199 on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @04:07PM (#13990080)
^-- Submarine argument of the current globalist movement. Basic flaw: it elides "the wants of globalists" with "the culture of the world" and tries to imply that the wants of globalists are the only one that exists.
Re:UK triggers the official Brexit process in a letter to EU by concinds on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @02:09PM (#13988982)
Calling Leavers "white nationalists" is like Glenn Beck calling Obama a communist.

Jews voted for Leave more than any other demographic group, even more than whites. Arguing about hypothetical white nationalists is total FUD.