Re:US Senate votes to undo FCC internet privacy rules
by vedranm on Thursday March 23, 2017 @08:11PM
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Let me correct you there: the American people did elect Donald Trump and he became president. Electoral College is the way to get elected, and popular vote has zero impact. That's why nobody who wants to win runs for the popular vote.
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Re:US Senate votes to undo FCC internet privacy rules
by fiter on Friday March 24, 2017 @12:10AM
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The poster you responded to referenced gerrymandering. I believe in that person's view, the gerrymandering is a form of corruption. Surely you believe corruption would result in an unfair election result. Though I would understand if you did not believe that gerrymandering is corruption.
http://www.npr.org/2016/06/15/482150951/understanding-congre...
Re:US Senate votes to undo FCC internet privacy rules
by taejo on Friday March 24, 2017 @06:51AM
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The electoral college is basically not gerrymandered. In all but two states, everyone in the state is voting in the same electoral college "district" - i.e., the state - and the boundaries of the states were established sufficiently long ago (1912 []) that we can assume they were not deliberately designed to produce a certain electoral outcome today.
[] Two states have been admitted since 1912 - Alaska and Hawaii - but their borders match preexisting borders (the Alaska-Canada border was last altered in 1903).
Re:US Senate votes to undo FCC internet privacy rules
by stepanhruda on Friday March 24, 2017 @07:35AM
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The college itself is gerrymandering. It was set up to roughly represent population but to have an educated stop gap against a populist winning. With urbanization and different population growth it is now a system of disproportionate representation.
Re:US Senate votes to undo FCC internet privacy rules
by Arizhel on Friday March 24, 2017 @10:53AM
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The people who drew state lines hundreds of years ago had no idea what things were going to look like in 2017; that's just stupid. Gerrymandering is drawing district lines to get a certain outcome. The state borders were not drawn to get a certain electoral outcome, they were drawn because of various political and geographic factors that existed in the 1700s. They didn't even have political parties at the time, nor did they even have a country in the eastern seaboard "states", since those were just independent colonies of England and there was no unification whatsoever. The whole "states" thing and unified federal country didn't come around until much later (the colonies were established in the 1600s, the revolution was in 1776).
Re:US Senate votes to undo FCC internet privacy rules
by ConceptJunkie on Friday March 24, 2017 @11:46AM
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You know how 10% of counties win elections (see 2008, 2012)? The electoral college is there so that number doesn't become 2%.
Re:US Senate votes to undo FCC internet privacy rules
by komali2 on Friday March 24, 2017 @07:22PM
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First of all, I don't understand how the removal of the electoral college would cause an individual within a certain county to have more voting power, rather than less (wouldn't this be the case? Their "vote" would be equal to any of the other millions of Americans anywhere ? )
Second, I don't understand how in a "no electoral college" universe, the concept of a "county" is even relevant. With every vote being perfectly equal, one would think the balance of power would perfectly equalize across all voters.
Re:US Senate votes to undo FCC internet privacy rules
by taejo on Friday March 24, 2017 @11:24AM
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The college produces different outcomes than a popular vote - that's true. I also don't think it's a good thing. But gerrymandering is something specific: drawing electoral districts to deliberately produce certain electoral outcomes. It presupposes a system with districts, but is not the same thing.