Re:LastPass: Security done wrong
by avoutthere on Thursday March 23, 2017 @02:26PM
(#13942598)
Putting one's keyfile in the cloud just seems to me to be asking for it. You're essentially trusting a 3rd party with the keys to your kingdom.
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Re:LastPass: Security done wrong
by TorKlingberg on Thursday March 23, 2017 @03:16PM
(#13943173)
* Compared to completely cloud-based password manager like LastPass and 1Password, it's no worse.
* The database in encrypted with your master password.
* You can optionally also encrypt it with static "Key File" that are on all your devices but not in Dropbox.
1Password seems to put saving to their cloud front and center but you can still choose to not save your passwords on their servers and use your own methods. My 1Password vaults are encrypted with my master password and synced between devices using Dropbox, I think there's also an option for directly syncing between smartphones and computers.
Re:LastPass: Security done wrong
by WorldMaker on Thursday March 23, 2017 @02:41PM
(#13942781)
A) You should presumably still have a good passphrase.
B) You choose which 3rd Party to trust. There are many options with different security/trust/threat models.
(Example: lately I've been using an encrypted share in Resilio Sync where the "cloud" option for me is a dumb VPS that can share the folder torrent but does not have decryption keys into the contents.)
No. You're trusting the encryption of the password manager. No self-hosted password manager that I know of keeps your passwords in a clear text file.
Re:LastPass: Security done wrong
by cookiecaper on Thursday March 23, 2017 @06:42PM
(#13945017)
KeePass is a fully self-hosted solution. The grandparent suggests using Dropbox et al for convenience (the vault is always encrypted, so it's not "giving away the keys"). However, you don't have to do that; I just use SFTP to copy the file off of my workstation when I need a fresh copy on my phone/laptop.
Re:LastPass: Security done wrong
by Johnny_Brahms on Thursday March 23, 2017 @04:58PM
(#13944199)
I don't trust dropbox, but I do trust the encryption of my password manager. Depending on how you measure, my key is somewhere between 100-150 bits, and even if that was feasible to brute force, I am not that important.