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Re:iPad 9.7‑inch by stanmancan on Tuesday March 21, 2017 @12:14PM (#13923586)
This is what happens when they don't have a "product" guy running the company anymore. Steve Jobs was brilliant at coming up with new products. Every since he left all we have gotten is the Apple Watch, which one can argue he probably had a hand in. Their only option now is to start creating variations of existing product lines to keep them "fresh".
Re:iPad 9.7‑inch by budde on Tuesday March 21, 2017 @03:03PM (#13925171)
> Steve Jobs was brilliant at coming up with new products

By my count, Jobs shepherded the following hit products (I'm giving the Apple ][ to Woz):

- Macintosh (1984)

- iPod (2001)

- iPhone (2007)

- iPad (2010)

I think you're exaggerating how often Apple rolled out new product lines under Jobs. You could even argue that the iPod and iPhone overshadow the other two substantially in terms of cultural impact.

> Their only option now is to start creating variations of existing product lines to keep them "fresh".

Isn't this kind of what you'd expect out of a business? Refreshing and supporting their existing product lines while occasionally trying to establish new ones? The iPhone is looking more and more like a once-in-a-lifetime home run product (Ben Thompson has done a lot of good writing on this), the likes of which Apple (or anybody else, for that matter) may never be able to top. This isn't to say that Apple doesn't miss having a visionary like Jobs at the helm or that their product lineup doesn't have glaring flaws. I just think the massive success of the iPhone set expectations way too high.

Re:iPad 9.7‑inch by Chromus on Tuesday March 21, 2017 @11:43PM (#13928313)
Maybe I'm misinformed, but those seem like the "definitive" Apple products to me. They're basically the foundation of their current business, and have only been diluted since his departure.
Re:iPad 9.7‑inch by PacketPaul on Wednesday March 22, 2017 @08:35AM (#13930359)
Why would Jobs not get credit for the Apple 2? It's not like he engineered any of the other items on your list. It was his marketing that made the Apple 2.
Re:iPad 9.7‑inch by stanmancan on Tuesday March 21, 2017 @07:03PM (#13927081)
When Jobs came back to Apple he supposedly canned hundreds of different products and got them to focus again. While he was around, that's how things remained; each product had their own place. As time goes on since his departure, the clutter is starting to come back and the lines are starting to blur. Whats the difference between the new Macbook and the Macbook Air? The iPad 9.6 vs the iPad Pro 9.6? Apple Watch Gen 1 vs Gen 2 vs Series 1 vs Series 2?