Man jailed indefinitely for refusing to decrypt hard drives loses appeal

Re:Man jailed indefinitely for refusing to decrypt hard driv... by repples on Tuesday March 21, 2017 @04:10AM (#13920559)

Unless you've been engaging in online noncery and have amassed a gigantic collection of photographs and videos of child abuse like the scumbag described in the article has evidenced, you should be absolutely fine. It's certainly not the judge's behaviour that is sickening here.

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Re:Man jailed indefinitely for refusing to decrypt hard driv... by NietTim on Tuesday March 21, 2017 @06:31AM (#13921000)

"You've got nothing to hide" is not a valid argument.

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Re:Man jailed indefinitely for refusing to decrypt hard driv... by repples on Tuesday March 21, 2017 @04:01PM (#13925668)

But the guy clearly had a massive stash of child pornography to hide, so I'm not really sure what your point is.

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Re:Man jailed indefinitely for refusing to decrypt hard driv... by DerpyBaby123 on Tuesday March 21, 2017 @04:32AM (#13920626)

Isn't the man innocent until proven guilty?

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Re:Man jailed indefinitely for refusing to decrypt hard driv... by repples on Tuesday March 21, 2017 @04:39AM (#13920650)

The court accepted evidence that he'd downloaded and shared all manner of such filth, including both technical evidence and testimony from his sister.

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Re:Man jailed indefinitely for refusing to decrypt hard driv... by tonyedgecombe on Tuesday March 21, 2017 @05:04AM (#13920712)

Then why couldn't they convict him on that evidence?

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Re:Man jailed indefinitely for refusing to decrypt hard driv... by goodplay on Tuesday March 21, 2017 @05:36AM (#13920822)

This is my main gripe. You either have the evidence to put the defendant in jail or you don't. If you don't have enough evidence to support putting him in jail, you let him free.

Innocence until proven guilty. I don't want to live in a society where law is determined by emotions and personal bias, even if some criminals end up escaping justice.

Side note: I can't believe I feel the need to state this, but evidently it needs to be stated (from comments in this thread): these two drives where set up as part of a backup solution. They contain my personal data. They do not contain child pornography.

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Re:Man jailed indefinitely for refusing to decrypt hard driv... by haikuginger on Tuesday March 21, 2017 @07:56AM (#13921385)

The ability to convict a particular case on a particular set of evidence is unknowable before trial, where the facts are decided by a jury. It would be irresponsible for a prosecutor to attempt a trial if they know stronger evidence is available.

The prosecution was able to convince a judge that there is encrypted child pornography on those drives. The judge can't force a jury to accept that (a ruling of fact), but (s)he can make a ruling of law that the defendant no longer has a fifth amendment defense to producing a decrypted version of those drives.

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