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Re:Police ask for whole city's Google searches, and a judge ... by tomcam on Thursday March 16, 2017 @07:02PM (#13889945)
> Legally Google is different... They are required to keep records that brick and mortar businesses do not.

> They have a de-facto monopoly as the largest search provider for the general populace. > They are a public resource that is a requirement for many of us to use in our day to day lives.

Wait, what? Has the "defacto monopoly" been legally established? They're a "public resource?" Please cite the legal meaning of "public resource" and where it was established through legislation or judicial action that Google is one?

Re:Police ask for whole city's Google searches, and a judge ... by Steeeve on Thursday March 16, 2017 @09:48PM (#13890717)
https://definitions.uslegal.com/d/de-facto-monopoly/

Jiminy christmas. I made a comment on hackernews and you're trying to parse it like we're in a court of law.

The fact is that Google is different than a mom and pop shop with a video camera. It's ludicrous to suggest otherwise.

Re:Police ask for whole city's Google searches, and a judge ... by tomcam on Friday March 17, 2017 @02:09AM (#13891915)
Forgive me for quoting you. You started with "Legally Google is different" so I assumed you wanted to talk law or legislation.

Also, I don't recall comparing Google to smaller organizations.

I may be oversensitive, but when I hear terms like "They are a public resource" I assume you mean that they should therefore be regulated by the government and paid for with tax money.

Re:Police ask for whole city's Google searches, and a judge ... by Steeeve on Friday March 17, 2017 @02:33AM (#13892000)
Forgive me...

I made a flippant comment following this thread of conversation:

> Is this really that different from police asking for security camera footage from a convenience store after a robbery?

> I think legally, Google is no different than any other business.

And when I came back to the thread there was a series of comments parsing my words.

I overreacted to the group and you were the target of that over-reaction.

Re:Police ask for whole city's Google searches, and a judge ... by tomcam on Friday March 17, 2017 @06:13PM (#13898440)
No prob! This is important stuff.
Re:Police ask for whole city's Google searches, and a judge ... by amorphid on Thursday March 16, 2017 @08:22PM (#13890341)
Punting on arguing for or against Google being a monopoly or utility, I will say there are a large number of people who trust Google. There are many, many ways that trust can be violated. As my coworker might say, they have a rather large attack surface.
Re:Police ask for whole city's Google searches, and a judge ... by tomcam on Friday March 17, 2017 @02:10AM (#13891919)
Once regulated by the government, there is an even larger attack surface, as we in the USA have learned over the years, most notably with the recent Wikileaks dump.
Re:Police ask for whole city's Google searches, and a judge ... by hadrien01 on Thursday March 16, 2017 @07:16PM (#13890012)
> Wait, what? Has the "defacto monopoly" been legally established?

I don't know where you live, but on my planet Google has an 80%+ market share.