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Re:MIT Media Lab Disobedience Award by toastednz on Saturday March 11, 2017 @05:34PM (#13847630)
I've nominated Alexandra Elbakyan of sci-hub and encourage everyone else to do the same.

I'd also be happy if Aaron Swartz won!

Re:MIT Media Lab Disobedience Award by lambdadmitry on Sunday March 12, 2017 @09:15AM (#13850510)
I've already wrote about that on HN, but I believe it's worth reiterating.

Alexandra Elbakyan is not an example of disobedience. In fact, she is very obedient to the rules of society she lives in (she is an avid Putin's supporter), it's just those rules are different from the West. Her risks over SciHub project is negligible while she lives in Russia, and given her views, I think it's unlikely she want to live somewhere else. In her early interviews/posts in Russian, she considers the project as a Russian crusade over the West of some sorts, so I don't believe this is in any way similar to the Aaron's case. Aaron was a political activist and a champion of human rights, and Alexandra is neither.

To be honest, the way in which Western media frame her baffles me: they used a common western narrative and slotted her into it instead of telling the true story.

Re:MIT Media Lab Disobedience Award by rwallace on Sunday March 12, 2017 @03:02PM (#13852384)
Alexandra Elbakyan is staying in Russia, yes. That's why she's still alive while Aaron Swartz unfortunately isn't and given that the award has to go to a live political activist and champion of human rights, that's why I've nominated her. Demanding our heroes die to prove their sincerity is, let's just say, not a helpful position to take.
Re:MIT Media Lab Disobedience Award by lambdadmitry on Monday March 13, 2017 @08:53AM (#13857323)
You are over-dramatizing things. EFF members or the judge who overturned Trump's travel ban are alive. It's not like people are routinely killed in US over copyright infringement or political protest as your comment implies.

>a live political activist and champion of human rights

You emphasized "live" there, but I would rather emphasize

> political activist

> champion of human rights

Alexandra Elbakyan is neither. It's just an opportunistical breaking of rules that are not enforced in Russia, and nothing I've read from her (except her interviews to Western media) implies her "political activism" or "championship of human rights".

However, if you still thing that she is worthy of the prize, I would also suggest nominating the owners of pornolab.net. It's one of the largest porn trackers out there, and it's online for a dozen years at least. It's in Russian, which I believe is one of the main reasons it's still online.

On the more general note: the enemy of your enemy is not your friend, it's a tactical ally.

Re:MIT Media Lab Disobedience Award by deafcalculus on Sunday March 12, 2017 @12:27AM (#13849195)
I voted for Alexandra Elbakyan.

Her blog - https://engineuring.wordpress.com/ Her email - [email protected]

Re:MIT Media Lab Disobedience Award by rhaps0dy on Sunday March 12, 2017 @02:06PM (#13852042)
Elbakyan! Elbakyan!! :D

Also, who runs Library Genesis? Those people could use the prize too!

Re:MIT Media Lab Disobedience Award by tricolon on Saturday March 11, 2017 @05:39PM (#13847644)
The first eligibility requirement: The recipient must be living.
Re:MIT Media Lab Disobedience Award by oopsietazer on Saturday March 11, 2017 @08:08PM (#13848279)
The first word in the award: Disobedience.
Re:MIT Media Lab Disobedience Award by 2muchcoffeeman on Saturday March 11, 2017 @08:49PM (#13848430)
That's just stupid.

The award is clearly for people who are being disobedient for the benefit of society.

Breaking rules for the sake of breaking rules is just anarchy or trolling. You're just inconveniencing people who set out to recognise real contributions to society.

Unless there is an Aaron Schwartz foundation or something, nominate people who are still doing work.

Re:MIT Media Lab Disobedience Award by oopsietazer on Saturday March 11, 2017 @09:26PM (#13848574)
This isn't about Aaron. It's about the next person who downloads too much free stuff doing it emboldened by the thought that MIT will have their back when the feds come knocking. If only because not doing so costs MIT 250 thousand dollars.

That would be a much bigger contribution to society than any one person walking away with this award.

Re:MIT Media Lab Disobedience Award by 2muchcoffeeman on Sunday March 12, 2017 @03:10AM (#13849583)
> This isn't about Aaron. It's about the next person who downloads too much free stuff doing it emboldened by the thought that MIT will have their back when the feds come knocking. If only because not doing so costs MIT 250 thousand dollars.

The next person? There are people CURRENTLY downloading free stuff and sharing it.

Nominate an appropriate person. Vote for someone who really deserves it NOW. Show these people that we support civil disobedience when it benefits society. Take the fucking money.

At this point, I have to believe that the people who want to flood them with ineligible nominees are simply trolling HN and trolling the MIT Media Lab. You guys are potentially throwing away 250K for no real reason.

Also from the page > Both individuals and groups are eligible to win the prize.

Re:MIT Media Lab Disobedience Award by newjersey on Saturday March 11, 2017 @10:12PM (#13848720)
While we are on this topic, let's not forget the real culprits: cfaa and widespread abuse of discretionary power by prosecution.

We must repeal (and not replace) the cfaa. Of course, we should name and shame MIT at every junction (shame on you, MIT!) However, we shouldn't lose sight of the bigger picture. CFAA is evil.

Re:MIT Media Lab Disobedience Award by codewiz on Saturday March 11, 2017 @10:25PM (#13848751)
Joi Ito, Director of the Media Lab, highly praised Aaron during the memorial held at the Media Lab in 2013:

http://tech.mit.edu/V133/N12/swartz.html

Perhaps the rest of MIT deserves shaming, but please don't punish the Media Lab.

Re:MIT Media Lab Disobedience Award by clintonb on Saturday March 11, 2017 @11:51PM (#13849048)
> It's about the next person who downloads too much free stuff doing it emboldened by the thought that MIT will have their back when the feds come knocking.

Aaron Swartz was not an MIT affiliate, alum, faculty, or student. MIT had no obligation to "have [his] back" for violating MIT network policy and federal law.

Re:MIT Media Lab Disobedience Award by AnthonyMouse on Sunday March 12, 2017 @07:18AM (#13850227)
> Aaron Swartz was not an MIT affiliate, alum, faculty, or student. MIT had no obligation to "have [his] back" for violating MIT network policy and federal law.

Having "no obligation" to do something is never an excuse for any behavior.

Re:MIT Media Lab Disobedience Award by Mithaldu on Saturday March 11, 2017 @09:09PM (#13848496)
He has parents. It's the least they deserve in form of apology.
Re:MIT Media Lab Disobedience Award by hkmurakami on Saturday March 11, 2017 @07:50PM (#13848210)
Idk, nominate his father?
Re:MIT Media Lab Disobedience Award by bitshiffed on Saturday March 11, 2017 @09:01PM (#13848472)
Or Lawrence Lessig.
Re:MIT Media Lab Disobedience Award by Iv on Saturday March 11, 2017 @09:18PM (#13848539)
I just did the same. Aaron is equally deserving, but this award will be put to better use by a living person.
Re:MIT Media Lab Disobedience Award by AdamJacobMuller on Saturday March 11, 2017 @07:33PM (#13848156)
Aaron Swartz was literally my first thought too. I'm submitting him anyway, he should win and the money should go to like-minded worth individuals and causes.
Re:MIT Media Lab Disobedience Award by paulv on Saturday March 11, 2017 @05:40PM (#13847649)
One of the criteria is that the nominees are alive. :-/
Re:MIT Media Lab Disobedience Award by bobsam on Saturday March 11, 2017 @05:45PM (#13847682)
You must be new to "disobedience"...
Re:MIT Media Lab Disobedience Award by KC8ZKF on Saturday March 11, 2017 @05:48PM (#13847701)
Or he read the article.
Re:MIT Media Lab Disobedience Award by bobsam on Saturday March 11, 2017 @05:52PM (#13847713)
Maybe you are missing the point?
Re:MIT Media Lab Disobedience Award by KC8ZKF on Sunday March 12, 2017 @03:36AM (#13849659)
Yes, I am sure you are right.

It's TCO though, because no matter what, Aaron will not be alive, and cannot be considered for the prize.

Re:MIT Media Lab Disobedience Award by coldtea on Saturday March 11, 2017 @06:56PM (#13847998)
Whoooosh...
Re:MIT Media Lab Disobedience Award by eddotman on Saturday March 11, 2017 @06:08PM (#13847810)
Good call. Decided to do the same.