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Re:Emirates Says Bookings to the U.S. Fell by 35% After the ... by chrisper on Saturday March 11, 2017 @02:58PM (#13846908)
Brown like Indian or Brown like Arabic? Does it even make a difference?
Re:Emirates Says Bookings to the U.S. Fell by 35% After the ... by vinay427 on Saturday March 11, 2017 @03:19PM (#13847028)
Decidedly anecdotal: Not the OP but I am brown like Indian with a non-Muslim name and have never had any extra scrutiny at security, except for one "random" screening on my boarding pass that involved some TSA swab check. I am a citizen, but I haven't heard of any non-citizen family friends or relatives that have expressed anything out of the ordinary.
Re:Emirates Says Bookings to the U.S. Fell by 35% After the ... by arjie on Saturday March 11, 2017 @05:14PM (#13847549)
I'm possibly the most incompetent traveler ever, and I haven't yet been pulled aside for extra scrutiny. But my mum has, and she's far more careful than I am with all her documents.

If there's one thing I've learned from attempting to replicate bugs, it's that if something affects even as much as one in four people, it'll look hunky dory to thrice as many people as it looks awful to.

Re:Emirates Says Bookings to the U.S. Fell by 35% After the ... by sandworm101 on Saturday March 11, 2017 @06:09PM (#13847812)
> ...anything out of the ordinary.

I'm Canadian. White. Blonde. I'm often mistaken for a soldier. After possibly hundreds of trips in and out of the US spanning four decades, last month the guy at YVR asked me "what religion are you?" That was strange. I didn't have a ready answer and I'm someone who always has a ready answer for boarder guards. I actually said "Well, when my grandfather died we had a ceremony at a church. Is that enough?"

Have you ever been arrested? No. Have you ever been finger printed? Yes. Have you ever been to the middle east? Yes. Are you carrying food? No. What religion are you? .... wtf did that become a thing?

Re:Emirates Says Bookings to the U.S. Fell by 35% After the ... by nojvek on Monday March 13, 2017 @01:15PM (#13859925)
Officer watched too much homeland?
Re:Emirates Says Bookings to the U.S. Fell by 35% After the ... by sandworm101 on Monday March 13, 2017 @10:16PM (#13864419)
That's only slightly funny. In the dark days of GWB (2002-2007) I saw many interviews where interrogators, from boarder guards to military people, said they took guidance from popular TV shows. The breakdown in mid-level management, a lack of clear standards and procedures, meant that otherwise rational people felt it appropriate to take ideas from TV. The writers of 24 were visibly upset when confronted with evidence that intel people took "interrogation" ideas from their show.
Re:Emirates Says Bookings to the U.S. Fell by 35% After the ... by refurb on Saturday March 11, 2017 @04:17PM (#13847314)
and have never had any extra scrutiny at security, except for one "random" screening on my boarding pass that involved some TSA swab check.

Interesting. I'm a white guy and I've gone through secondary screening (swabs, detailed questions, etc) probably half a dozen times over the past 2-3 years.

And I have a US passport!

Re:Emirates Says Bookings to the U.S. Fell by 35% After the ... by DanAndersen on Saturday March 11, 2017 @05:09PM (#13847535)
White American here. In the past 3-4 years (probably a couple dozen flights) I have gotten some level of patdowns and hand-swabs literally every single time I go through one of those millimeter-wave machines. Every time, without fail.

My belief is that it's because I had gone through some pretty substantial weight loss in the past, and so my body skin/muscle/fat density is all screwy around the midsection, and thus it sets the machine off.

Re:Emirates Says Bookings to the U.S. Fell by 35% After the ... by exclusiv on Saturday March 11, 2017 @08:07PM (#13848275)
My white buddy got stopped and frisked traveling around Europe with me every time. He has a legit beard. They even asked if they could put their hands inside his pants (inside the waist band). Beards are suspect these days no matter what your background.
Re:Emirates Says Bookings to the U.S. Fell by 35% After the ... by sdenton4 on Saturday March 11, 2017 @04:28PM (#13847362)
Discretionary secondary screenings can have a lot to do with appearing nonthreatening. If the guard has a quota to hit (even an unstated one) and wants to minimize effort spent on dumb secondary screenings, it pays to choose people who won't put up a struggle.
Re:Emirates Says Bookings to the U.S. Fell by 35% After the ... by zem on Saturday March 11, 2017 @08:32PM (#13848380)
perhaps they profiled too many brown people and had to make their numbers look 'random' again (:
Re:Emirates Says Bookings to the U.S. Fell by 35% After the ... by rosser on Saturday March 11, 2017 @04:19PM (#13847323)
I've also been subject to secondary screening a lot more often than the GP, and am a white, native-born US citizen with a germanic surname.
Re:Emirates Says Bookings to the U.S. Fell by 35% After the ... by smacktoward on Saturday March 11, 2017 @03:18PM (#13847015)
Given how many Americans assume Sikhs are Muslims (see https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/01/the-tro...), I'd say probably not.
Re:Emirates Says Bookings to the U.S. Fell by 35% After the ... by vinay427 on Saturday March 11, 2017 @03:22PM (#13847038)
As you probably know, the vast majority of Indians are not Sikh, and it's not clear that they assume Indians of other religions are Muslim as well.
Re:Emirates Says Bookings to the U.S. Fell by 35% After the ... by iscrewyou on Saturday March 11, 2017 @03:42PM (#13847148)
Yes they do assume Indians of other religions are Muslim as well. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39081698
Re:Emirates Says Bookings to the U.S. Fell by 35% After the ... by vinay427 on Saturday March 11, 2017 @04:01PM (#13847238)
I was hoping for more widespread data rather than a single incident. I have definitely heard about more incidents involving Sikh individuals.
Re:Emirates Says Bookings to the U.S. Fell by 35% After the ... by rosser on Saturday March 11, 2017 @04:13PM (#13847294)
> I have definitely heard about more incidents involving Sikh individuals.

Most likely because all the aggressors in those incidents see is the traditional dastar.

Remember that one of the more prevalent slurs for men from Muslim cultures is "raghead." If you're already enough of a shit to think that's a legitimate way to treat people, you probably don't care one whit about the cultural specifics of the "rag" in question.

Re:Emirates Says Bookings to the U.S. Fell by 35% After the ... by electrichead on Saturday March 11, 2017 @03:17PM (#13847013)
This is a common misconception - "Arabic" isn't distinguishable like this since a lot of Arabs are fair-skinned.