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Re:Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA by akerro on Thursday March 09, 2017 @07:52AM (#13828898)
Not sure if that's good for us. We're doing work for google for free. Google Translate will replace translators,

Google car will replace drivers, Google VR + map will replace city guides. We're giving them knowledge and powers to replace us, for free. Professions will disappear, people will lose jobs, Google will get richer and richer, will not pay me or you for fixing their suggestions in Google Translate or fixing maps or improving computed route from A to B.

No one is being paid for that work, but someone is monetizing it.

Re:Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA by washadjeffmad on Thursday March 09, 2017 @08:18AM (#13829021)
I consider it more a donation towards posterity than getting stiffed on some short term compensation.

It's just an opinion, but if the things Google has created and shared into the whole of human knowledge towards the betterment of future societies are still being used in a century for my grandkids (and the rest of humankind) to benefit from, then I think it's better than not having it because a few million people who couldn't have done it themselves said 'no' over a pittance.

I can't speak for you, but my dying thoughts won't be a sour reflection on all of opportunities to monetize my existence I might have missed.

Re:Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA by Pigo on Thursday March 09, 2017 @09:24AM (#13829425)
There is some trade off when you think of the benefits we get for free, in return, from Google. I barely recall what it was like to buy a map, writing down directions, and praying to God I didn't get thrown off on the way.
Re:Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA by iainmerrick on Thursday March 09, 2017 @10:39AM (#13829972)
the things Google has created and shared into the whole of human knowledge

Do they really share it, though? You can't download and reuse data from Google Maps or Street View the way you can from OpenStreetMap, say.

I'm not saying this is a fatal problem. Google Maps is a lot more popular than OSM so the free-with-ads closed source approach clearly has a lot going for it. But the data isn't public, they own it.

Re:Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA by Taylor_OD on Thursday March 09, 2017 @10:58AM (#13830131)
My brother teaches math to at risk youth in the Denver area. He has students that don't speak a lot of English (their primary language is Spanish) and he's trying to explain math concepts to them. He realized he can use google translate and get 95% of the information across that he needs to.

I've never personally hired a professional translator and I don't think I would if I was going to travel to a country where the majority of people don't speak English because I assume a professional translator is expensive. However if I know I have free access to google translate which will be useful enough for me to navigate by myself I would be much more likely to go on such a trip.

I'm sure some jobs will be lost but at least for middle class people who arnt able to afford translators the technology will be used to communicate better without affecting professional translators.

There are plenty of similar professions that exist but not utilized by the middle/lower class due to cost. I would love to hire a interior decorator, as I'm sure plenty of home owners would, but I haven't due to the cost and likely never will. If Google (or any other company) offered a service where I put photos of my home online and gave me a free layout with online links to purchase the furniture I would be thrilled and no interior decorator would be out of a job because I wasn't going to pay for one anyway. I think its all about the level of quality you want.

Re:Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA by stoolpigeon on Thursday March 09, 2017 @11:05AM (#13830175)
Google translate is decent for some languages and really poor for others - so I'd run it by some native speakers before you rely on it for anything important.
Re:Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA by User_424 on Thursday March 09, 2017 @02:23PM (#13832345)
Work in the Language Service Industry. Google translate for a few languages is decent at best for social conversations. It is never used in serious business translations. The technology still has a long way to go.
Re:Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA by pizza234 on Thursday March 09, 2017 @10:19AM (#13829801)
This assumes the amount of work is fixed. Some people consider it a fallacy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lump_of_labour_fallacy

and some don't, so this point of view is arguable, to say the least.

Regardless, translation is an intellectual work, driving (depending on the point of view), isn't. Same goes for city guides; people doesn't necessarily prefer an electronic device to a human.

Re:Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA by schrodinger on Thursday March 09, 2017 @08:03AM (#13828952)
You could argue that your payment is access to all of the free services they offer (e.g. Gmail)
Re:Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA by juice_bus on Thursday March 09, 2017 @08:10AM (#13828978)
Which is also mined for data for targeted advertisement, wouldn't that be the payment for access?
Re:Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA by anoonmoose on Thursday March 09, 2017 @10:11AM (#13829747)
Yes, but now we're really just arguing about the actual costs of those services.
Re:Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA by akerro on Thursday March 09, 2017 @09:18AM (#13829378)
Will that feed me or make rich richer and poor poorer?
Re:Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA by deadbunny on Thursday March 09, 2017 @10:36AM (#13829952)
Is it meant to?
Re:Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA by taway_1212 on Thursday March 09, 2017 @08:41AM (#13829124)
As long as automatic translators/drivers etc. are better and/or cheaper than human ones, everyone (except people in said professions) will benefit.