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Re:How we convinced founder-angels to invest in our develope... by suresk on Tuesday March 07, 2017 @05:21PM (#13815638)
It definitely feels like getting developer tools bootstrapped/funded is harder than other things sometimes, so congrats.

Mostly just wanted to say Scrimba looks pretty cool way to teach/learn coding - nice work!

Re:How we convinced founder-angels to invest in our develope... by orb_yt on Tuesday March 07, 2017 @08:06PM (#13816906)
> It definitely feels like getting developer tools bootstrapped/funded is harder than other things sometimes

Is this backed by any concrete data? I am working on a developer tool/application myself, and was pleased to find programming tools was an item listed in YCombinator's RFS. What is the general consensus here?

Re:How we convinced founder-angels to invest in our develope... by burrows on Tuesday March 07, 2017 @08:29PM (#13817015)
Prevailing wisdom says developers don't pay for tools so investing in them is stupid.
Re:How we convinced founder-angels to invest in our develope... by simplehuman on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @01:00AM (#13818286)
How about heroku?
Re:How we convinced founder-angels to invest in our develope... by spullara on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @02:35AM (#13818634)
I helped save them from being a developer tool. Originally they were aiming to be an IDE. Instead they stuck with being a mission critical execution environment and then got bought by Salesforce.
Re:How we convinced founder-angels to invest in our develope... by daveguy on Tuesday March 07, 2017 @08:33PM (#13817030)
It may be that developer tools by definition have a fairly limited market. I guess if you were to build a developer tool that succeeds in the mythical "make everyone a developer" then people would throw money at you. However, most developer tools have a very limited market: existing developers.

That said, there are some very successful developer tool companies: atlassian, github, etc.

Re:How we convinced founder-angels to invest in our develope... by andrenotgiant on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @12:30AM (#13818144)
I think this rethinkdb postmortem write-up best explains the original commenter's sentiment http://www.defstartup.org/2017/01/18/why-rethinkdb-failed.ht...
Re:How we convinced founder-angels to invest in our develope... by marknadal on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @01:19AM (#13818360)
RethinkDB guys are great, but not the only reflection of what is happening in the DevTools space.

I was interviewed on The Changelog[1] podcast and JavaScript Jabber[2] about some of this stuff, and wrote a follow up piece published on hackernoon[3] about it. It is a good space, it is just shifting in its needs, and I was able to raise just fine from big names like Tim Draper and Marc Benioff of Salesforce for our Open Source Firebase - https://github.com/amark/gun .

[1] https://changelog.com/podcast/236

[2] https://devchat.tv/js-jabber/mjs-002-my-js-story-mark-nadal

[3] https://hackernoon.com/the-implications-of-rethinkdb-and-par...

Re:How we convinced founder-angels to invest in our develope... by corysama on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @03:59AM (#13818977)
I'm not sure I understand the revenue model you are proposing in [3]. Can you ELI5 "creating revenue shared partnerships and branding" like I've never worked in the enterprise market?
Re:How we convinced founder-angels to invest in our develope... by marknadal on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @05:32AM (#13819337)
Not quite like a 5 year old (but if you want that, I can/will - just tell me again!).

Open Source is your brand/value, which means it is your (genuine) marketing/evangelism. Being the news/story item itself gets you ahead of your competitors, who may be the advertisement along side your article.

Use this traffic to create an edifying, positive community. You will be surprised at how high quality of people will show up at your doorstep (if your message from the previous step resonated well) - governments, enterprises, investors, employees at startups, compatriots of complementary technology.

Now curate and start building relationships with the most promising of those people, such that they like you better than their own workplace. They are intimately aware of the problems/needs of their organization, and you help them build a solution to that specific need/pain-point on top of your Open Source developer tool. Now that an inside sale is happening, make some moves:

1. There is no need for that person to give his/her custom solution to their employer away for free.

2. Have that person leverage the solution as a massive role promotion, such that they are (or already were) "in charge" and can sign off on large recurring support contracts directly for your technology. OR

2. Have that person require their employer to pay license fees in order to use their customized solution. Guess who now needs outside help/leverage to enforce/deliver on that contract? Your friend, who if the employer doesn't purchase the contracts, will be poached by you.

3. Poach them anyways, acquire the rights, and make them the PM for your customer so you keep happy ties. Now that you've cracked that market open, expand to the rest of their competitors.

4. Fund raise based on all this progress.

Of course, it is slightly different depending on what their role/position is, if it is an enterprise or not, etc. you have to make your best call/judgement as the CEO. Like with everything.

It is working for us. :D

Re:How we convinced founder-angels to invest in our develope... by mrborgen on Tuesday March 07, 2017 @06:01PM (#13816009)
Yeah, it seems so!

I'm glad you like Scrimba, thanks!

Re:How we convinced founder-angels to invest in our develope... by mrborgen on Tuesday March 07, 2017 @02:38PM (#13813909)
Hey, I'm the author of this article. Happy to answer any questions people might have.
Re:How we convinced founder-angels to invest in our develope... by soneca on Tuesday March 07, 2017 @08:10PM (#13816925)
Wow, great post! I have a question: would you consider having me as a remote intern at Scrimba?

Just putting my neck out there. :)

Some more context about me: http://rodrigo-pontes.gomix.me

Re:How we convinced founder-angels to invest in our develope... by mrborgen on Tuesday March 07, 2017 @09:22PM (#13817303)
Interns aren't something we're currently looking for, but send me an email at [email protected] :)
Re:How we convinced founder-angels to invest in our develope... by 20years on Tuesday March 07, 2017 @08:23PM (#13816978)
I run some coding workshops for 6th to 8th graders and would be interested in using scrimba for some of the lessons. Are you currently opening this up to beta testers that can implement it in a real world scenario?
Re:How we convinced founder-angels to invest in our develope... by mrborgen on Tuesday March 07, 2017 @08:56PM (#13817153)
Yes! Just signup and start creating :)

Would love to speak to you as well, my email is [email protected]

Re:How we convinced founder-angels to invest in our develope... by 20years on Tuesday March 07, 2017 @09:18PM (#13817274)
Outstanding. I plan to try this on a lesson in a class I am running on the 17th. I will reach out to you via email. Thanks!
Re:How we convinced founder-angels to invest in our develope... by leonroy on Tuesday March 07, 2017 @07:03PM (#13816521)
Short, succinct and helpful article. Going through similar growing pains with my startup so this is timely. Scrimba looks great too, think it could really push the e-learning market forward.

This kind of tool would be great for Khan Academy's coding tutorials. Good stuff!

Re:How we convinced founder-angels to invest in our develope... by myowncrapulence on Tuesday March 07, 2017 @03:23PM (#13814417)
Wow. This is an amazing tool (Scrimba) to begin learning any web development. Serious kudos.
Re:How we convinced founder-angels to invest in our develope... by spraak on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @02:10AM (#13818548)
I've watched Per Borgen grow as a developer. This is cool :) Just a few years (less than three, maybe two) they were blogging about just getting started as a 'real' developer
Re:How we convinced founder-angels to invest in our develope... by mrborgen on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @08:47AM (#13820165)
Thanks, but to be fair it's my co-founder Sindre who's built this. I've done some coding on the site, but not the editor :)
Re:How we convinced founder-angels to invest in our develope... by caltrain on Tuesday March 07, 2017 @05:36PM (#13815783)
Great read