Re:A deep dive into why Wi-Fi kind of sucks
by emodendroket on Saturday March 04, 2017 @10:37AM
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I splurged on one of the expensive tri-band routers and honestly now the wireless is good enough that I don't care.
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Re:A deep dive into why Wi-Fi kind of sucks
by Klathmon on Saturday March 04, 2017 @11:39AM
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I used to live about 1/4 mile away from any other houses, and I never got why people always complained about wifi.
In my experience it always worked well, was fairly fullproof, and had fast enough speeds that it was never an issue.
2 years ago I moved into a condo that has 25 wifi APs within range of me right now. Now I get it.
Getting one of the high-end tri-band routers as you said did help, but it's still a difficult experience.
Re:A deep dive into why Wi-Fi kind of sucks
by extra88 on Saturday March 04, 2017 @12:00PM
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I never heard of a tri-band router before. It's a misnomer because there is no third band, it just means it can handle 2.4GHz but will use two channels of 5GHz at once. There have been other routers in the past that used more than one channel but it sounds very selfish to use in a dense apartment/condo living situation.
Re:A deep dive into why Wi-Fi kind of sucks
by Klathmon on Saturday March 04, 2017 @12:07PM
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Well luckily there is a massive chunk of 5ghz channels that nobody is using right now so i'm okay, and the routers that use the 2 bands of 5ghz actually will step down to only 1 if they see someone else stepping on either of them.
But just the fact that the higher end routers handle the extra congestion much better was more the point.
Re:A deep dive into why Wi-Fi kind of sucks
by Dylan16807 on Saturday March 04, 2017 @06:12PM
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It's worse than that. There is a third band, 802.11ad running at 60GHz. But as you say "tri-band" actually means tri-channel.
Good point, they should be called simultaneous tri channel.
Re:A deep dive into why Wi-Fi kind of sucks
by Obi_Juan_Kenobi on Saturday March 04, 2017 @02:42PM
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'Power Line' or similar adapters can work quite well in apartments. You can use it for a wired connection where practical, and otherwise have a couple 5GHz routers for a good wireless access.
Re:A deep dive into why Wi-Fi kind of sucks
by emodendroket on Saturday March 04, 2017 @12:49PM
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Hm, I'm not quite that isolated, but I do live in a single-family home, so that might explain it.
Re:A deep dive into why Wi-Fi kind of sucks
by digler999 on Saturday March 04, 2017 @05:08PM
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If they haven't done so already, maybe we'll see copper-clad drywall or flooring for such environments ? Guess that would take down cellular service too though.
Re:A deep dive into why Wi-Fi kind of sucks
by Klathmon on Saturday March 04, 2017 @05:21PM
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I'm just waiting for a standard which smartly reduces transmit power so they all don't need to shout over each other.
Re:A deep dive into why Wi-Fi kind of sucks
by hchenji on Saturday March 04, 2017 @08:06PM
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Reducing transmit power reduces interference, but it also reduces capacity since the received power (and hence the SNR at the receiver) is reduced! The Shannon limit on channel capacity dictates exactly how much bit rate (C=B*log2(1+SNR)) is achievable over a channel. SNR is a fundamental ingredient of this equation.
Re:A deep dive into why Wi-Fi kind of sucks
by askvictor on Sunday March 05, 2017 @03:28AM
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Also, copper is pretty expensive. A mesh of cheaper metal should do the job; might even be possible to tune it to the right frequency so you don't block cellphones, but I don't know
Re:A deep dive into why Wi-Fi kind of sucks
by kalleboo on Saturday March 04, 2017 @11:01AM
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My wifi is fine between one wireless device and a wired device, but if I'm say, using my laptop to beam a video off my NAS onto my TV, it all breaks down.
Re:A deep dive into why Wi-Fi kind of sucks
by mrfusion on Saturday March 04, 2017 @11:59AM
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What is triband. Can you recommend one?
Re:A deep dive into why Wi-Fi kind of sucks
by extra88 on Saturday March 04, 2017 @12:07PM
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I had to google it, it sounds selfish when the trouble is caused by many neighbors having their own APs nearby.
Re:A deep dive into why Wi-Fi kind of sucks
by raphyduck on Saturday March 04, 2017 @01:43PM
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Doesn't it enhance to the problem further though? (if yes, then yes, wifi kinda sucks)
Re:A deep dive into why Wi-Fi kind of sucks
by Klathmon on Sunday March 05, 2017 @01:14AM
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not really, as I believe any router that uses more than one channel at once must disable that feature if there are any other APs that are trying to use any of those channels.
Re:A deep dive into why Wi-Fi kind of sucks
by emodendroket on Saturday March 04, 2017 @12:54PM
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Can't speak for anyone else, but that was not my problem.
Re:A deep dive into why Wi-Fi kind of sucks
by emodendroket on Saturday March 04, 2017 @12:51PM
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It uses 2 5Ghz channels and 1 2.4ghz channel.
I bought this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0167HG1V6