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Re:How Uber Used Secret “Greyball” Tool to Deceive Authoriti... by mkolodny on Friday March 03, 2017 @07:11PM (#13788179)
Or like non-Jews hiding Jews from the Nazi police.

Obviously that's a dramatic example, but so is the drug dealer example.

If Uber believes that the taxi industry is wrongfully colluding with the government to try to stop Uber from operating, then it's not necessarily wrong for Uber to do whatever it can to continue operating.

Re:How Uber Used Secret “Greyball” Tool to Deceive Authoriti... by adamsea on Friday March 03, 2017 @07:50PM (#13788391)
If Uber believes the taxi industry and the government are wrongfully colluding, it has the means to legally make that case as well as in the court of public opinion.

That is obviously not true for the extreme example you cited of genocide under fascism, so, I don't think it makes sense to compare the two.

Re:How Uber Used Secret “Greyball” Tool to Deceive Authoriti... by gtirloni on Saturday March 04, 2017 @01:34AM (#13789644)
Exactly.

Uber didn't have to have Greyball in the first place. Every driver that got intimidated/assaulted should go to the police. Every time a competitor pulled some shenanigans against Uber, they should sue. And so on and so forth.

This is just smokescreen. It's obvious what the intent was.

Re:How Uber Used Secret “Greyball” Tool to Deceive Authoriti... by booleandilemma on Friday March 03, 2017 @10:35PM (#13789062)
No, sorry, Uber doesn't get to resort to some kind of corporate vigilantism and "do whatever it can to continue operating".

Uber can go through the proper legal channels to address the concerns it has.

Re:How Uber Used Secret “Greyball” Tool to Deceive Authoriti... by odbol on Friday March 03, 2017 @11:05PM (#13789181)
Laws take years, even decades to change. We'd never have any progress if every technological advancement had to wait for the law to catch up and regulate it.
Re:How Uber Used Secret “Greyball” Tool to Deceive Authoriti... by pyrale on Saturday March 04, 2017 @03:19AM (#13789948)
We do have quite a lot of advancement which comes without violating the law. Also breaking the social canvas to correct something you feel is unfairly repressed/enforced is not something to do lightly.

Let me give you an example here. I think Uber is a bad thing, but there's nothing I can do to oppose them, legally, that is. Should I carry out my own justice, illegally ? You can see that this pattern of thought quickly falls down, because making compromises is actually an important part of living in society.

Re:How Uber Used Secret “Greyball” Tool to Deceive Authoriti... by pjc50 on Saturday March 04, 2017 @05:12AM (#13790228)
It sounds like this happened in some places - uber cars getting vandalized in France, for example.

Once you say "we're not going to follow the law", do you have the moral right to demand it be enforced on other people?

Re:How Uber Used Secret “Greyball” Tool to Deceive Authoriti... by rand77763 on Saturday March 04, 2017 @08:16AM (#13790762)
God, I wish HN had a downvote button.
Re:How Uber Used Secret “Greyball” Tool to Deceive Authoriti... by omegaham on Saturday March 04, 2017 @10:51AM (#13791367)
It does - you just need a certain amount of karma (500?) to get it. That's why some answers are grayed out; get enough downvotes, and your writing will blend in more and more with the background.
Re:How Uber Used Secret “Greyball” Tool to Deceive Authoriti... by pyrale on Monday March 06, 2017 @05:33AM (#13801816)
Why, exactly ?
Re:How Uber Used Secret “Greyball” Tool to Deceive Authoriti... by princeb on Saturday March 04, 2017 @02:42PM (#13792558)
I know. HIPAA and SEC regulations are the reason why tech can't quite seem to disrupt the medical and financial industry. I wish a company like Uber will just go in and break every rule until enforcement finally realizes medical and financial regulation is a silly idea.

Tax avoidance and laundering of criminal money is a genuine value-add to many an individual's portfolio I don't know why governments around the world want to prevent banks from doing it.

Arthur Andersen did nothing wrong.

Re:How Uber Used Secret “Greyball” Tool to Deceive Authoriti... by aub3bhat on Friday March 03, 2017 @11:32PM (#13789276)
how dare you utter such impure thoughts on a forum named "Hacker News". Regulations is always for the greater good!!! /s
Re:How Uber Used Secret “Greyball” Tool to Deceive Authoriti... by thecrazyone on Saturday March 04, 2017 @02:14PM (#13792388)
Haha, not sure why this is being down voted. This is meant to be a funny, sarcastic comment :-)
Re:How Uber Used Secret “Greyball” Tool to Deceive Authoriti... by codedokode on Friday March 03, 2017 @09:42PM (#13788844)
If Uber thinks law is wrong why don't they start a campaign to change it? England or France are supposed to be democratic states, aren't they?
Re:How Uber Used Secret “Greyball” Tool to Deceive Authoriti... by Godel_unicode on Friday March 03, 2017 @07:45PM (#13788362)
A less extreme example would be saying that you bought that weed for your glaucoma.
Re:How Uber Used Secret “Greyball” Tool to Deceive Authoriti... by timecube on Friday March 03, 2017 @08:04PM (#13788458)
Re:How Uber Used Secret “Greyball” Tool to Deceive Authoriti... by 59nadir on Saturday March 04, 2017 @01:01PM (#13792042)
Actually, the art in this case imitated this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN-vUaawaF8