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Re:94-year-old Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Introduces Solid... by Arizhel on Thursday March 02, 2017 @10:17PM (#13780495)
If this thing really has significantly higher volumetric energy efficiency than existing Li-ion batteries, then it's already good enough to be used in cellphones, at least according to me. I don't care if it's 2.5x heavier; I want more energy storage in my phone so it lasts longer between charges. I really, really don't care if that means the phone weighs an ounce more. I'm sure the Otterbox case on it adds just as much extra weight, and I don't see many people complaining about those.

Yeah, for cars, the weight is a big issue, because that hurts fuel (well, battery charge in this case) economy significantly, and EV cars use a LOT of energy storage compared to a phone. But for phones, I don't see the problem.

As for this battery failing harder, no problem: make sure the battery is easily replaceable by users, just like the Samsung phones up to the S5.

Re:94-year-old Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Introduces Solid... by ZoomZoomZoom on Friday March 03, 2017 @03:44AM (#13781571)
That's it. Some recent laptops even have metal weights inside, so the top lid wouldn't outweigh[1]. I'd rather it had a heavier battery.

1. https://habrastorage.org/files/502/9db/168/5029db1688a747518...

Re:94-year-old Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Introduces Solid... by username3 on Friday March 03, 2017 @09:21AM (#13782955)
Apple took Air out of MacBook because laptops will get heavier.
Re:94-year-old Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Introduces Solid... by tlrobinson on Friday March 03, 2017 @12:05AM (#13780881)
And even more suitable for smaller devices like watches and earbuds.
Re:94-year-old Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Introduces Solid... by LeifCarrotson on Friday March 03, 2017 @08:09AM (#13782579)
> I don't care if it's 2.5x heavier; I want more energy storage in my phone so it lasts longer between charges

I'm with you on this! But I'd clarify that I want more energy in any form. I would also not mind a phone that was a few millimeters thicker. But it seems the average consumer is swayed by a very thin phone, so more weight it is.

Re:94-year-old Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Introduces Solid... by Pica_soO on Saturday March 04, 2017 @08:53AM (#13790881)
Its a super hard topic to get more energy into a battery of similar weight and dimension.

In relation to that - it would be super easy to create a User Defending App that guns down rogue energy using Background Apps (GPS Location, homecalls every minute, etc.) but hey - all hail the mighty data kraken getting his prioritys straight.

No battery maker will keep up, with the energy demands of the surveillance industries.

Re:94-year-old Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Introduces Solid... by m-j-fox on Friday March 03, 2017 @02:19PM (#13785414)
> Otterbox case on it adds just as much extra weight, and I don't see many people complaining about those

Irks me that not one single phone manufacturer dares to ship a product as indestructible as an iphone in an Otterbox. Sure it would be the clunkiest handset in the store, but compare it to other phones + case, there's room to make a superior final product. But no. Apple keeps shaving millimeters and Otterbox keeps slathering them back on.

Re:94-year-old Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Introduces Solid... by burntwater on Friday March 03, 2017 @03:52PM (#13786398)
You can definitely buy more rugged phones. Often they lag behind in specs compared to popular flagship models, but they're not bad. For instance, I currently use a CAT S60 phone: http://www.catphones.com/en-gb/phones/s60-smartphone

After a normal day of use I'll still have 60% of battery life. It's normally water resistant down to 6 feet for 30 minutes, flipping two switches makes it water resistant down to 15 feet for 30 minutes (and it even comes with a "drying" app that helps it to dry faster by, I think, vibrating the speakers.)

This particular phone comes with FLIR imaging, which probably isn't useful to the general population...

Re:94-year-old Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Introduces Solid... by zer0t3ch on Friday March 03, 2017 @09:38PM (#13788830)
That's fucking cool. Is that the same "CAT" that makes things like bulldozers and scoops?
Re:94-year-old Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Introduces Solid... by burntwater on Saturday March 04, 2017 @02:27AM (#13789806)
It's the same CAT brand, yes, but the phone itself is developed by I think a British company.
Re:94-year-old Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Introduces Solid... by zer0t3ch on Saturday March 04, 2017 @05:06PM (#13793159)
Cool. If I had the money, that would totally be my next phone.
Re:94-year-old Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Introduces Solid... by Namrog84 on Friday March 03, 2017 @03:08PM (#13785898)
Not many phones do.

But a few have done what you suggest. At least slightly. The Galaxy s6 came in an active version that had like 30% more battery and better water resistance and a slightly tougher default shell.

I don't know how their sales were for the 2 models but I hope they were good enough to continue the trend

Re:94-year-old Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Introduces Solid... by diggernet on Saturday March 04, 2017 @12:52PM (#13791985)
See the Samsung Rugby series.