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Re:Sweden brings back military conscription by BurningFrog on Thursday March 02, 2017 @11:30AM (#13775363)
Afghanistan was easily conquered by both the USSR and the US.
Re:Sweden brings back military conscription by mikeash on Thursday March 02, 2017 @11:48AM (#13775559)
But not easily held. Both nations would probably think twice before trying it again.
Re:Sweden brings back military conscription by BurningFrog on Thursday March 02, 2017 @12:31PM (#13776086)
True.

But the cost to Afghanistan has been enormous. Four decades of constant war, millions dead, and near the lowest lifespan and living standard in the world.

Is that really the defense strategy a country should aim for ? Will a modern latte sipping atheist nation really execute it?

Also, there are many other reasons to invade countries than to hold them long term.

Re:Sweden brings back military conscription by TeMPOraL on Thursday March 02, 2017 @12:36PM (#13776154)
It does present a deterrent for the enemy who would like to invade and hold your territory. So it addresses that kind of attack. It does not address other kinds.

In a war, your losses don't usually concern your enemy. But they do care about how much it costs them to achieve their goals, so if you can make it prohibitively expensive, you have a sound defense.

Re:Sweden brings back military conscription by muninn_ on Thursday March 02, 2017 @01:19PM (#13776644)
But that's not what happened in places like Afghanistan with respect to the US. The US never wanted to "conquer" Afghanistan. If the US did want to, it could have easily killed every single person in the country and then just start building Starbucks on every corner.

The goal was to root out what they perceived as an enemy and hostile nation that harbored terrorists, and then recreate a society much more tolerant and sympathetic toward Western values. In that, there is no conquering needed. It's called nation building, and it's very different.

Re:Sweden brings back military conscription by crystalmeph on Thursday March 02, 2017 @11:47AM (#13775549)
For certain values of "conquered." The "bad guys" never seem to be completely conquered, and still enjoy significant freedom of movement and access to supply lines.
Re:Sweden brings back military conscription by RobertoG on Thursday March 02, 2017 @12:16PM (#13775892)
the conquered are the "bad guys"?
Re:Sweden brings back military conscription by crystalmeph on Thursday March 02, 2017 @01:22PM (#13776671)
I don't know why you're getting downvoted, and I'm the one who put "bad guys" in quotes!

I put it in quotes not because I believe in moral relativism, but because in the conflict against the USSR, official US policy was that the mujahideen were "good guys, or at least not-as-bad-as-the-other-guys," while in our own invasion, they were bad guys, an assessment I share due to their harboring of terrorists who intentionally murdered thousands of civilians.

Re:Sweden brings back military conscription by thrillgore on Friday March 03, 2017 @12:50PM (#13784617)
Genghis Khan did it too but it sure as hell didn't stay occupied.