I know you're joking, and while it is cool, that's kind of my thought as well. Yes, get the X11-style integration working so it's easier to run linux gui software... but imho the Windows desktop since 7 is better than most on the linux side.

I'm glad to see this work getting done.. and I hope in means native docker for linux and windows containers native... though, I also have no interest in running windows containers either... it would be nice to see the option. Not sure if this effort will bear fruit to such extent in Azure, but I can't help but think if it reaches compatible enough for docker linux containers, that Azure will get a very compelling docker story.

>but imho the Windows desktop since 7 is better than most on the linux side.

Are you by any chance a fan of minimalism?

Windows desktop by default comes with almost no features at all – be it about window management, file management, network connectivity (shares) or anything else. Personally I find using a plain Windows desktop an exercise in frustration for that.

I rarely have to touch network connectivity, and as to file management, what's wrong with launching an explorer window? I will use Win+arrow to use a portion of the screen for a given app, and on mac I use moom for that.

And yes, I'm a bit of a fan of minimalism. I find that managing the apps I use the most, and navigating between open app instances to be easier in windows than anything else... the windows taskbar + start are great, though I prefer the win7 start over win10's, and didn't like win8's at all *(used classic shell).

I don't like the "rest" of windows as much as mac, but the base desktop is imho great... if windows integrated a common/shared menu like mac and unity, it'd be about the only thing I'd like to see added/changed.

I'd also love to see something closer to iterm2 ported to windows and linux... most of the alternatives I've used aren't as good imho. I use conemu in windows, and haven't found a console I really like in linux yet.

Oh man, I didn't know about the win+arrow functionality. I can now do one command to stick one window to a side of a multi-monitor setup! This is killer :)

One of my favorite things added in win7 iirc... once pinned to the right/left can up/down to use 1/4 the screen... I'm using a 40" 4k display, so it really works out nicely.

Maybe it's just the frustration of config/settings/preferences being in different locations for every freaking application on windows. It's definitely not consistent...

    File -> Settings
    File -> Preferences
    Edit -> Settings
    Edit -> Options
    Edit -> Preferences
    Tools -> Settings
    Tools -> Options

Anything but consistent. In mac it's `[AppName] -> Preferences` always. And maybe you're right about each window having its' own menu bar.. all the same, I wouldn't call it consistent, as it really isn't.

Right... You can make Windows 10 look like a unix workstation from 1995.

KDE Plasma 5 is actually reasonably modern. http://i.imgur.com/XcnYxy0.png

KDE is my favorite DE by far and it is very much the most advanced environment I know. The integration is the best and the ability to tweak everything is great.

Personally I use i3 90% of the time and use many KDE applications. KDiff, Dolphin and Gwenview are my go to for me, well that and ranger the console file manager.

KDE always felt quite sloppy to me, too much going on, weird borders and decorations, screwy inconsistent padding etc.

Looks almost nice, but feels like spacing and font size is wrong on some places. Maybe I'm just used to win10...

Definitely, there’s a lot to improve, and it certainly isn’t perfect – but it’s not a desktop that you’d compare to Windows 95 or CDE.

elementaryOS ever more so. Although, it is a bit of a clone of MacOSX which may be a turn off for some but still is quite user friendly.

I installed it for my family members ( not at all knowledgeable people in terms of computers etc ) and they all have gotten along with it very well.

KDE Plasma recently added a new unified theming system, and there is now a theme to make KDE Plasma look and work exactly like macOS with that (with menus in top bar, dock, etc)

But yes, elementary does the "good defaults are impirtant" very well.

ITT people who never worked with gnome shell, kde or even i3, awesome, xmonad,...

I.e. Windows 95, more or less.