Re:Apple's Tim Cook: We really care about pro users
by Bud on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @10:01PM
(#13760600)
This is complete nonsense and probably just made up. The previous MB Pro design required adapters for the VAST majority of all monitors. There's nothing new here.
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Re:Apple's Tim Cook: We really care about pro users
by joezydeco on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @10:05PM
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If jonjenk is doing hardware development, I can sympathize. I'll attest that literally nothing in my current bench environment is USB-C compatible. Dev boards, JTAG debuggers, emulators, UART bridges, signal scopes, SoCs...all USB 2.0.
Maybe he's talking about stuff other than charging cables and monitors?
Re:Apple's Tim Cook: We really care about pro users
by blackguardx on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @10:12PM
(#13760674)
I would be shocked if most USB accessories didn't work with an adaptor. The old macbook only had two USB A ports anyway. I do hardware development and use a USB hub with my 2015 Macbook Pro. I'm guessing USB-C to to USB-A hubs exist and work well.
Re:Apple's Tim Cook: We really care about pro users
by dpark on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @10:24PM
(#13760765)
Don't be rational with your easy fix.
Re:Apple's Tim Cook: We really care about pro users
by ssalazar on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @11:56PM
(#13761273)
Yes, ditching physical compatibility with nearly every other connector currently in use, in exchange for a millimeter or two of thinness, is the rational option.
Re:Apple's Tim Cook: We really care about pro users
by dpark on Wednesday March 01, 2017 @12:22AM
(#13761398)
Connecting a USB hub to your half dozen peripherals is a lot more rational than expecting Apple to reintroduce USB-A connectors.
Re:Apple's Tim Cook: We really care about pro users
by joezydeco on Wednesday March 01, 2017 @10:33AM
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They exist, but if you read OP's statement "Our engineers refuse to engage in the dongle shenanigans" you can also see that they just didn't want to have more hubs to juggle in the course of their day.
Re:Apple's Tim Cook: We really care about pro users
by gurkendoktor on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @10:39PM
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In my limited experience, HDMI is the new VGA in terms of availability. Projectors, TVs, screens all support it (even if it can't drive 10-bit modes or the max refresh rate).
If you bring a HDMI-capable Mac to a client and something doesn't work, it's their fault. If you bring a USB-C Mac and forget the dongle, it feels like a faux pas on your end.
Though to be fair, it was an aberration that the last (fantastic!) rMBP had a useful video port. Historically, portable Macs always needed crappy adapters.
Re:Apple's Tim Cook: We really care about pro users
by ebbv on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @10:46PM
(#13760908)
Err I have had my 15" rMBP and have never needed a dongle. It supports thunderbolt/displayport and HDMI. I can connect not only to multiple monitors easily without dongles, I can connect to TVs.
The all USB-C design of the new Pros is not very Pro friendly. It should be the base MacBook.