5/5s/SE will forever remain Apple's greatest phone in my opinion. I have had my 5 since 2013, and dropped it too many times to possibly count. The metal body is completely worn down and scratched from years of abuse, yet the screen is flawless. I just ordered an $8 battery on Amazon, replaced it in 5 minutes, and my phone is now back to working like new condition. It's the perfect phone.

It's an amazing phone. But I brought the 16gb version and lack of space is wearing on me. I really want to listen to music on it without streaming.

So I'm going to ditch it soon :/ Terrible feeling ditching a perfectly functional thing, I wish I had the foresight when I purchased it get the larger HD.

I was going to buy an SE once they updated it (a newer processor is all I cared about) but they never did. They're talking about adding a 128gb version but sounds like it's still going to include the A9. Why Apple?!

I also have the SE and love it. What's interesting to me is that if the entire surface area of the SE were screen space (no bezel) then the screen would be as large as an iPhone 7's. The same can be said for the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus. I hope that this is the direction that Apple is going with new designs. This also leaves the door open for bezel-free iPhone nano that would fit within the current SE screen.

The problem with that is it defeats the reason I use an SE. I imagine some people use it because they want a physically smaller device, but I use it because I use my phone one handed almost all the time. Keeping the same size but making the screen portion larger kind of defeats the purpose for me (I think the iPhone 4 was the perfect size, but I can't have everything.) If they want to go edge to edge, ok, but sharing the device to the current screen size.

(I also worry about accidental touch rejection on an edge to edge screen. My AppleTV 4 remote is the most useless apple product since the hockey puck mouse of 1998 because the touch pad was registering input when I just picked up the remote. Now I use my AppleTV 3 remote with the 4.)

How would you make a phone call?

They have patents for screens full of holes that should allow a speaker and microphone to work through the screen:

http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/10/14225872/apple-patent-oled...

There is another patent regarding the TouchID sensor working through a screen:

http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/10/04/apple-patents-fing...

The front facing camera is a bigger issue.

With the right sort of directionality you might be able to get away with having the speaker on the top side and the mic on the bottom, leaving the whole front panel for the screen.

Or be super cool and have a mechanical system that pops out a little speaker at the top and a little mic at the bottom.

Maybe it's just my generation but me and pretty much all of my friends have not made a POTS phone call in at least many years traditionally; none of us know our phone numbers nor use them day to day.

If I end up actually calling someone (and pretty much everyone I know despises this and will do anything possible to avoid it) it's usually by tapping their number on a web page or in an app like yelp.

Bluetooth headset. Wired headset. 'Hey Siri' voice control. Apple Watch with headset.

Why would it stop you making a phonecall?

Replaced my 5S by an SE a couple of weeks ago. I fully agree, it's a great phone.

Be sure that you get the 64GB version though! My wife had the 16GB version and had to upgrade to the 64GB version, because the live photos, etc. took up quite a lot of space.

> Be sure that you get the 64GB version though! My wife had the 16GB version and had to upgrade to the 64GB version, because the live photos, etc. took up quite a lot of space

+1000 I got the 16GB version and I've had to micromanage some of my apps and definitely the photos and stuff to free up space. Luckily I don't take that many pictures so I'm ok with occasionally deleting data. Can't imagine using something like Snapchat though (which I used to use but now don't) it uses a TON of space.

The 8GB iPhone 5C is hell. Just the OS takes up at least half the space.

They waited several generations too long to up the lowest disk size. Gotta wonder if any Apple employees ever used one of the 8GB devices in real life.

> especially from Sony.

That seems like an odd jab, given Sony are rolling 7 out for discontinued models. Compare with Samsung who axe updates in less than a year in some cases.

Who does better?

> the same can't be said for most Android devices especially from Sony.

I guess that might be true for most Sony devices - but my z3+ recently got updated to Android 7 - and the "high end" Sony phones have pretty decent open source support:

https://developer.sonymobile.com/open-devices/list-of-device...

Now, I would indeed like to see even better updates (like 7.1 ota) - but so far my experience with Sony is better than other android manufacturers.

On the other hand k-9 just slowed to a crawl - not sure if it's a coincidence with having a "big" inbox and downloading the last 1000 messages - but I fear not.

I'm also a convert from a 2013 Moto X which I absolutely adored. I looked for an entire year for another decent, solid, affordable android phone that I could fit in a pocket easily (4.7"ish). No dice. The pixel looked good but was too expensive. I switched grudgingly to an SE, which cost around 200 bucks less at the time. Couldn't be happier.