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Re:Signal can now be used without Google Play Services by bubblethink on Monday February 20, 2017 @05:23PM (#13691543)
It's not a technical limitation, just a design decision. Everyone on Signal's network is known by their phone numbers. You cannot pick a username, as such. The phone number is the username.
Re:Signal can now be used without Google Play Services by mirimir on Monday February 20, 2017 @05:53PM (#13691769)
I really don't get the point of that.

I mean, sure one can get more-or-less anonymous phone numbers. But why create the need for that?

There are things like keys for verification :)

Re:Signal can now be used without Google Play Services by JumpCrisscross on Monday February 20, 2017 @05:55PM (#13691786)
> I really don't get the point of that

To prevent spam and promote discovery. Finding someone on WhatsApp or Signal is easier than on WeChat as with the latter someone might be using a screen name, or an email address or a phone number.

Re:Signal can now be used without Google Play Services by colordrops on Monday February 20, 2017 @08:00PM (#13692405)
Discovery and preventing spam should not take precedence over privacy for an app that supposedly has privacy as its number one priority.
Re:Signal can now be used without Google Play Services by SimonPStevens on Tuesday February 21, 2017 @06:27AM (#13694804)
Privacy isn't signal's one priority.

Good enough privacy for the masses is.

They are always making these tradeoffs, and always make the same decisions. Perfect privacy in every situation isn't the goal. The goal is better privacy than the average person currently has, while still maintaining a level of convenience that the average user well accept.

Re:Signal can now be used without Google Play Services by colordrops on Tuesday February 21, 2017 @08:43AM (#13695307)
That's what google and Facebook say.
Re:Signal can now be used without Google Play Services by mirimir on Monday February 20, 2017 @10:09PM (#13692939)
Indeed. So one must conclude that privacy isn't the top priority.
Re:Signal can now be used without Google Play Services by yorwba on Monday February 20, 2017 @07:27PM (#13692236)
Why is it is easier to find someone when you can only use one identifier to find them, instead of several? Note that WeChat also uses phone numbers to limit spam, so you can find anyone if you know their number. (But exchanging QR codes is the preferred method of sharing contact information, to the point where I couldn't call most of my contacts except through WeChat.)
Re:Signal can now be used without Google Play Services by hackuser on Tuesday February 21, 2017 @12:38AM (#13693542)
> To prevent spam

I suspected that, but have they openly said it? I suspect it's also to deter criminal activity.

Re:Signal can now be used without Google Play Services by nradov on Tuesday February 21, 2017 @12:24AM (#13693494)
Wow that's an amazingly stupid and short sighted decision. Why would they tie their app to a legacy numbering system which doesn't even serve to accurately identify people?
Re:Signal can now be used without Google Play Services by anc84 on Tuesday February 21, 2017 @04:26AM (#13694394)
So that they do not have to worry about that. It's a pretty smart decision to offload the issue of unique IDs to an existing infrastructure.

I really do not like it either too though.

Re:Signal can now be used without Google Play Services by MichaelGG on Tuesday February 21, 2017 @04:40AM (#13694437)
... Same reason WhatsApp got so many users and became worth billions? It's simple, straightforward, and just works for most people.