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Re:I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again by psybin on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @01:52PM (#13646029)
"Is this the phone you use on a day to day basis"- felony if you lie.
Re:I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again by Spooky23 on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @02:09PM (#13646169)
"No, officer, its the phone I carry when I travel. I worry about it getting stolen."
Re:I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again by linkregister on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @02:17PM (#13646263)
What is the felony charge? I keep seeing the word "felony" bandied about in this thread. I get it, it's a scary, attention-getting word. Is it really a charge with a minimum 1-year sentence?
Re:I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again by linkregister on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @02:50PM (#13646539)
I ended up looking it up myself: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1001

    18 U.S. Code § 1001 - Statements or entries generally
    
    Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)
    
    (a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any matter
    within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch
    of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully—
    (1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact;
    (2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or
    (3) makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to 
    contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry;
    shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if
    the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in 
    section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both. If the matter 
    relates to an offense under chapter 109A, 109B, 110, or 117, or section 
    1591, then the term of imprisonment imposed under this section shall be 
    not more than 8 years.
Re:I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again by DigitalJack on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @02:23PM (#13646311)
It is a felony to lie to a federal agent.
Re:I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again by donald123 on Thursday February 16, 2017 @10:11AM (#13660428)
How can they prove it's a lie? Are they tracking my day to day phone?
Re:I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again by jschwartzi on Wednesday February 15, 2017 @09:20AM (#13652135)
"Where is the USB port? I need to plug something in."

"Oh, that broke off years ago. I just charge batteries in a separate charger now."

Re:I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again by exhilaration on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @02:01PM (#13646116)
Option 1: "No, I left my phone at home."

Option 2: If you're at the US border and a US citizen, "Sir, I'm an American citizen and just want want to get home" -- citizens can't be blocked from re-entering at the border.

Re:I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again by psybin on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @02:09PM (#13646171)
Option 1, why did you bring decoys? You should probably sit here in this cell for a bit while we work out what the fuck you're doing.

Option 2, they can't stop you from entering but they can make you enter directly into a jail cell, or generally make your life miserable. See the owner of cock.li, who had all of his electronics seized twice.

Re:I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again by unethical_ban on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @02:23PM (#13646309)
OK, what's your point? Your responses are all pretty defeatist, and definitely speculative.
Re:I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again by rosser on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @02:50PM (#13646534)
Examples of how CBP has treated people attempting to re-enter the country is by no means "definitely speculative."
Re:I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again by psybin on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @02:32PM (#13646399)
I've been party to discussions like this, I know how it goes. Once you're shoved in a small room indefinitely, all of your possessions and shoes taken so you don't kill yourself, and had questions dumped on you, a lot of these cute actions people are suggesting are pretty ridiculous. A seriously stupid move would be to try something like erasing your data, or trying to mislead the offers would simple prolong the experience. You get that treatment even if you haven't done anything wrong, god knows what happens if you have.
Re:I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again by rosser on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @02:15PM (#13646237)
Citizens may, indeed, not be barred from re-entering, but there's absolutely nothing, anywhere that says we can't be made to wait unconscionably long before entry, or that we can be allowed to re-enter without our devices.
Re:I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again by wyldfire on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @02:24PM (#13646313)
That constitutes de facto detention and yes, there's absolutely something that governs it.

Unfortunately ICE/CBP has policies [1] in place to require the phone's password that they believe are legitimate per 8 USC § 1357(a) (3). It's likely that only a court ruling weighing the policy regarding this statute against the bill of rights would make them change.

[1] https://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/ice_border_search_electr...

Re:I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again by dsp1234 on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @02:12PM (#13646210)
re: Option 2

Define "blocked". Because Sidd Bikkannavar's recent experience tells a different story[0].

"The document given to Bikkannavar listed a series of consequences for failure to offer information that would allow CBP to copy the contents of the device. “I didn’t really want to explore all those consequences,” he says. “It mentioned detention and seizure.”"

[0] - http://www.theverge.com/2017/2/12/14583124/nasa-sidd-bikkann...

Re:I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again by canadian_voter on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @02:17PM (#13646258)
Do you think this is the document he was handed?

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/documents/inspection...

A few highlights:

You may be subject to an inspection for a variety of reasons, some of which include: [...] you have been selected for a random search."

You’re receiving this sheet because your electronic device(s) has been detained for further examination, which may include copying.

CBP may retain documents or information relating to immigration, customs, and other enforcement matters only if such retention is consistent with the privacy and data protection standards of the system in which such information is retained. Otherwise, if after reviewing the information, there exists no probable cause to seize it, CBP will not retain any copies.

Re:I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again by rhizome on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @03:34PM (#13646884)
Tech bro citizens need to intentionally travel in order to step up and volunteer to say "No" to all entreaties for their data. They have money for lawyers, and PTO for time.
Re:I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again by hguant on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @02:10PM (#13646187)
>citizens can't be blocked from re-entering at the border.

Well, sort of. They have to let you in, but you can be held more or less indefinitely if you're suspected of committing a crime, or not complying with the border agent.

Re:I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again by pfarnsworth on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @02:34PM (#13646416)
"Okay, then please give me your Facebook and Twitter usernames and passwords." If you lie, and then they do a search and find you, then you're going to be in bigger trouble.
Re:I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again by taylodl on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @03:13PM (#13646691)
I don't know those passwords because I use a password management solution allowing me to use very strong gobbledygook passwords. Access to my password management solution is bio-locked on a device I don't have presently.
Re:I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again by InitialLastName on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @04:02PM (#13647144)
"My account logins are only available through the password manager on my home computer"
Re:I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again by GuiA on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @02:08PM (#13646168)
No, but they can be detained and harassed - just what happened to the fellow mentioned in the article.
Re:I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again by walrus01 on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @02:10PM (#13646179)
Result of option 2: "Okay sir, please come this way for an inspection of your rectum"
Re:I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again by nisse72 on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @04:33PM (#13647419)
"No, it's a new one I've just bought for this trip". So what?
Re:I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again by anigbrowl on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @02:19PM (#13646279)
Nope. So what?