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Re:Amazon Chime by ultimoo on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @12:29AM (#13641391)
I liked the part about Chime calling you at the scheduled start of meeting. So simple yet I had never thought of this since my org uses WebEx.

With a smart phone that would pretty well via a push notification or an actual call, but not sure how that would work when you want a join a meeting from a physical meeting room with its own AV system. I'm sure there is a way to get that set up.

Re:Amazon Chime by baconner on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @02:01AM (#13641768)
Seemed like it was just a mobile join notification in the video similar to Skype for business or WebEx if you are using VoIP. No?

My company used WebEx and I could make it dial me and start up my conference line without having to go through all the regular pin entry stuff. Now we're using Lync (Skype for business) which is similar although tragically buggy. That can also dial me and sends notifications if you hook it up.

The key for these kind of apps is cost and reliability. Seems like they're advertising substantial cost reductions and better quality. If either one is true they'll likely make out really well.

Re:Amazon Chime by webmaven on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @02:24AM (#13641877)
Lync is still buggy? I haven't used it in about two years, but I'd have thought Microsoft would have solved those issues by now.
Re:Amazon Chime by baconner on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @02:52AM (#13641977)
I must say I've been really disappointed with how often it crashes outright or has major rendering issues during screen sharing. When it works it's really convenient but 20% of meetings with screen share involved seem to have an issue. I really think quality is life or death for these products. If my company weren't a tight Microsoft partner I really doubt we'd be using it.

WebEx wasn't as convenient but at least it worked correctly the vast majority of the time.

Re:Amazon Chime by annnnd on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @03:20AM (#13642094)
> I really think quality is life or death for these products... > If my company weren't a tight Microsoft partner I really doubt we'd be using it.

You answered yourself - no, quality is not life and death (at least not fast death) for this product. :)

Re:Amazon Chime by baconner on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @11:33AM (#13644724)
Ha you got me there
Re:Amazon Chime by kybernetikos on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @02:38AM (#13641919)
Lync is shockingly bad. You'd think that after 45 years of sending text to each other over networks this would be a solved problem by now.
Re:Amazon Chime by madenine on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @09:56AM (#13643857)
Anecdotal, but I use Skype for Business every day without any bugs/issues, as does the rest of my company (~50 people, lots of remote workers + liberal WFH policy).

When there's a rare issue, its usually a headset not working, which is probably more a user or windows problem.

Re:Amazon Chime by baconner on Wednesday February 15, 2017 @01:38PM (#13654256)
I don't see a lot of audio issues, but tons of problems with screen sharing and video.

My company has about 4000 users in 100+ countries so maybe it's bandwidth/scale in part. i see a lot of stuff like skypefb crashes or doesn't render correctly when you try to screen share, etc especially internationally.

Not 100% certain part of it isn't due to us cheaping out on infrastructure to run it.

Re:Amazon Chime by jcoffland on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @03:04AM (#13642034)
Microsoft is not known for promptly fixing bugs.
Re:Amazon Chime by m12r on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @09:42AM (#13643769)
Absolutely aggreed with this. We still have to pay a 5 to 10% task to get the conference call going.

Chime is the absolute good step in the right direction, however we will need need a layer on top to solve for all conference call systems.

There are three pieces that needs to be figured out to make this work well:

1. How do you deal with (non?) presence? Are you joining from the AV hardware? 2. How do you deal with PSTN? 3. How do you deal with other VoIP solutions out there.

I have a few ideas on this, especially on #2.

Re:Amazon Chime by r00fus on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @12:39AM (#13641434)
I wonder how Chime callback will work with back-back meetings.

ie, I'm in someone's Chime/webex, and I need to join a different one. Also does it seamlessly join multiple connections - one benefit of Webex is that I can start my meeting on the iPhone while leaving a meeting room so that others can hop on, and then have my laptop join later so I can share my screen when I hit my desk.

Re:Amazon Chime by andy_ppp on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @02:47AM (#13641957)
It can/should tell everyone at the start and tell you specifically when it's time to say bye. Depending on the time of the next meeting you could opt to join that one late... obviously triple booked will never work.
Re:Amazon Chime by macspoofing on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @05:47AM (#13642609)
>So simple yet I had never thought of this since my org uses WebEx.

WebEx has (sort of) that capability. There is an option for it to call you when you join a meeting.

Re:Amazon Chime by sixothree on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @10:19AM (#13644021)
This is one of my favorite features. Using computer audio is awful especially on the go and GotoMeeting fails to recognize correctly the code I enter some 20% of the time it seems.
Re:Amazon Chime by jerf on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @11:09AM (#13644492)
If there is anybody who happens to read this who is responsible for implementing the code that reads the meeting codes, please implement the following changes:

1. Make it so meeting codes are strictly forbidden from having repeating digits, by construction.

2. Make it so that when entering meeting codes, if you think you see repeated digits, consider it just one instance of that digit.

The cell system does not use literal DMTF tones to dial calls; those are played by the phone itself for the user's benefit. If the cell system used DMTF for numeric signalling, we'd all be dialing a lot more wrong numbers. (And we'd all groan when we got a new line with a number with repeated digits in it....) Heck, even on VOIP systems very well connected to the internet, I've had trouble entering 9-12 digit codes without the remote system becoming convinced I'd actually entered a 11-15 digit code. I've gotten a few strange looks before for the way I push the buttons for the codes as rapidly as possible, because, ironically, the human intuition here is exactly backwards; you intuitively think that if the remote system isn't understanding your numbers you should press the number "longer" and harder, but that actually increases the chances of the system hearing multiple instances of that number. You actually want to pound the number buttons as quickly as possible. You still can't deal with the entire number being dropped, but it's still your best chance sometimes.

....

'course, there's probably some patent out that this is in violation of. In which case you are authorized and even encouraged to use this post as part of a defense that this technique is Obvious to One Skilled in the Art. I'm not a telecom engineer.

Re:Amazon Chime by TorKlingberg on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @05:28AM (#13642545)
> not sure how that would work when you want a join a meeting from a physical meeting room with its own AV system. I'm sure there is a way to get that set up.

As someone who works in video conferencing, this is often very broken. The are all kinds of compatibility issues and crappy UX. One of our core selling points is getting room systems into online meetings.

Re:Amazon Chime by iamdave on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @01:26PM (#13645795)
I'm sure there is a way to get that set up.

Hrm, SIP URIs maybe? https://www.wikiwand.com/en/SIP_URI_scheme

Re:Amazon Chime by apahwa on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @01:06AM (#13641562)
uberconference does this
Re:Amazon Chime by sahaskatta on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @08:19AM (#13643277)
+1 for Uber Conference. Discovered it about a year ago and it's by far my favorite service for work. Just wish they add video calling support soon.
Re:Amazon Chime by lloydde on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @11:10AM (#13644496)
That does seem great for a distributed team with fewer meetings.

As you suggest for a physical meeting or when people have back to back meetings, it would quickly get annoying.

I wonder if this also reflects that calendar apps still suck.