Re:Replacing butter with vegetable oils does not cut heart d...
by SimeVidas on Sunday February 12, 2017 @09:05PM
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I thought no reputable vegetable oil brand uses trans fats anymore.
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Re:Replacing butter with vegetable oils does not cut heart d...
by 0xcde4c3db on Sunday February 12, 2017 @09:17PM
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As far as I know, that shift has only occurred in the past decade or so, after the FDA started requiring trans fat to be listed on the Nutrition Facts label. It might be too soon to look for the effects of that change on long-term risks for cardiovascular disease.
Re:Replacing butter with vegetable oils does not cut heart d...
by barney54 on Sunday February 12, 2017 @11:34PM
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The sad thing is that the FDA first had to be convinced to allow trans fats to be listed. Later it required them to be labeled.
Re:Replacing butter with vegetable oils does not cut heart d...
by abecedarius on Monday February 13, 2017 @12:14AM
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Also, FDA labeling allows "0g trans fat" for food with 0.5 g per serving, and listed serving sizes are often laughable, so I wonder. This article I just found claims "0.56% to 4.2% trans fats" in "soybean and canola oils found on store shelves in the U.S." (https://authoritynutrition.com/6-reasons-why-vegetable-oils-...) Dunno how much weight to give it; I try to avoid those oils anyway.
Re:Replacing butter with vegetable oils does not cut heart d...
by wapz on Monday February 13, 2017 @01:18AM
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I've always been taught that after olive oil, canola is the best to use for cooking. What am I supposed to use?!
Re:Replacing butter with vegetable oils does not cut heart d...
by abecedarius on Monday February 13, 2017 @01:40AM
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There's coconut oil and palm fruit oil. (There may be environmental concerns about the latter.) I also use butter/ghee sometimes. (And olive oil, but you already mentioned it.) For non-cooking, I like flaxseed oil.
Re:Replacing butter with vegetable oils does not cut heart d...
by ohkaiby on Monday February 13, 2017 @02:00AM
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Interesting. I've been taught the opposite due to the low smoke point of olive oil.
I use Avocado oil; it has a high smoke point and seems healthier. Other oils are OK if you don't cook on high heat (use medium heat or lower).
Re:Replacing butter with vegetable oils does not cut heart d...
by clarry on Monday February 13, 2017 @10:23AM
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Olive oil comes in many varieties, and some of them have a smoke point comparable to canola, or even higher. Even the unrefined varieties tend to have a fairly high smoke point. So unless you're searing, olive oil is just fine for cooking.
Re:Replacing butter with vegetable oils does not cut heart d...
by wapz on Monday February 13, 2017 @04:29AM
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Thanks I'll try out Avocado oil. Someone else mentioned it also. When I say "taught" I really mean my mom said "that one's good. Oh that one's good, too."
Re:Replacing butter with vegetable oils does not cut heart d...
by Broken_Hippo on Monday February 13, 2017 @05:34AM
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Don't worry too much about the low amounts. Develop cooking techniques to use less oil (non-stick pans, measuring out oil, etc), and switch between oils when you cook. I don't figure I'm eating enough fats to worry about it, as I don't eat meat and limit fish/seafood to once every week or two.
I use either butter or a butter/canola blend for most stovetop cooking and generally use an olive/canola blend for breadmaking, with the exception of pizza crust which is oil-free.
Re:Replacing butter with vegetable oils does not cut heart d...
by ScottBurson on Monday February 13, 2017 @03:30AM
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The theory I go by is to avoid highly polyunsaturated oils (which include canola); prefer monounsaturates. Olive oil is indeed the best if you're not going to get it too hot; next is avocado oil. Hi-oleic safflower/sunflower might be a third choice (better, at least, than canola).
Re:Replacing butter with vegetable oils does not cut heart d...
by vram22 on Monday February 13, 2017 @11:33AM
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In India safflower and sunflower oil are recommended as being better for the heart, etc. Don't know enough to say if that is right or not.
Also, recently I think I read that coconut oil may not be as harmful as thought earlier by some (my guess is people thought it was harmful because it congeals at a higher temperature than other vegetable oils do). But on the other hand, people in coastal states like Kerala, Tamil Nadu, etc., must be using it a lot, and I have not read about them having higher cardiac problems.
All this is just anecdotal, BTW.