Intel Confirms 8th Gen Core on 14nm, Data Center First to New Nodes

Re:Intel Confirms 8th Gen Core on 14nm, Data Center First to... by svantana on Friday February 10, 2017 @03:02PM (#13618401)

Isn't the real problem that process shrinks have stopped giving performance gains? Broadwell halved the logic area of Haswell (see slide in article), but benchmarks showed improvements of only a few percent. Surely that stagnation can only get worse at 10 nm. If Intel actually saw a huge business case for 10 nm, my guess is they would have found a way by now.

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Re:Intel Confirms 8th Gen Core on 14nm, Data Center First to... by trhway on Friday February 10, 2017 @04:42PM (#13619161)

>Broadwell halved the logic area of Haswell (see slide in article), but benchmarks showed improvements of only a few percent.

in the presence of competition the Broadwell chip would have double the number of cores of the Haswell chip it was replacing, and thus the modern multithreaded benchmarks would have shown double the performance. Current situation clearly showcases what happens when there is no competition (the experience very familiar to anybody who saw/rode/drove a USSR/Russian made car or aware of the Russian presidential elections history of the last 17 years :)

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Re:Intel Confirms 8th Gen Core on 14nm, Data Center First to... by kristianp on Friday February 10, 2017 @06:14PM (#13619762)

If you double the cores, you also double the TDP. They can only do that where the application permits, such as servers.

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Re:Intel Confirms 8th Gen Core on 14nm, Data Center First to... by tormeh on Friday February 10, 2017 @07:12PM (#13620092)

Or desktops. Or heavy laptops. Current i7s seem designed for the MacBook Pro. That should have been the i5 or i3 segment.

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Re:Intel Confirms 8th Gen Core on 14nm, Data Center First to... by temac on Friday February 10, 2017 @08:16PM (#13620363)

Big laptop i7s have something like a 50W TDP. It's quite a lot, even for a somehow "heavy" laptop... You can do maybe twice more on extra heavy laptop (for hardcore gamers) that probably only few people want.

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Re:Intel Confirms 8th Gen Core on 14nm, Data Center First to... by wmf on Friday February 10, 2017 @07:53PM (#13620267)

You want a laptop processor hotter than 50W?

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Re:Intel Confirms 8th Gen Core on 14nm, Data Center First to... by Dylan16807 on Saturday February 11, 2017 @05:35AM (#13622063)

It has a fan. There's no need for more watts to make it hotter.

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