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Re:How Satya Nadella revived Microsoft by piaste on Friday February 10, 2017 @10:50AM (#13616155)
> Firing 18k people at Microsoft's scale isn't even close to burning it down and starting from scratch.

Eh... According to Wikipedia, MS had 114k employees total as of mid-2016. Given that, I'd say a 18k layoff definitely counts as a big deal.

Re:How Satya Nadella revived Microsoft by jonknee on Friday February 10, 2017 @11:08AM (#13616326)
It was certainly treated as such locally in Seattle.
Re:How Satya Nadella revived Microsoft by rugdobe on Friday February 10, 2017 @11:07AM (#13616320)
majority of this layoff was the hardware guys from Nokia acquisition.
Re:How Satya Nadella revived Microsoft by mbesto on Friday February 10, 2017 @02:02PM (#13617926)
> It's not like Nadella fired every one and started afresh.
Re:How Satya Nadella revived Microsoft by acchow on Friday February 10, 2017 @02:40PM (#13618212)
HN is frustratingly pedantic sometimes.

"It's not like Nadella fired every one and started afresh." is a colloquialism. d--b was basically saying "it's not like Nadella did a major overhaul.

With which jonknee disagrees, citing a layoff of 18,000. To which simonh claims is not a major overhaul since Microsoft is nebulously enormous. To which piaste disagrees, as 18k was actually 15.7% of the company.

You can all continue to debate whether or not 15.7% is a major overhaul, whether the actual people they fired were significant, etc...

But you quoting a colloquialism and asking us all to take it literally is not helpful to the discussion, or the culture of HN.

Re:How Satya Nadella revived Microsoft by mbesto on Friday February 10, 2017 @05:32PM (#13619504)
> HN is frustratingly pedantic sometimes.

I don't disagree, but the parent was being just as pedantic as I was. Perhaps my snark was an attempt to end the petty discussion (apparently, improperly so). Read these two statements in the context of the discussion:

> burning it down and starting from scratch.

> started afresh

15.7% is a major overhaul, but IMO in no way insinuates "burning something down" or "starting afresh". Do you think either of those statements is consistent with a 15% cut in workforce?

PS - 12,500 of those 18,000 came from Nokia[0].

> with 12,500 of those coming out of the streamlining of Microsoft’s acquired Nokia assets.

[0] - https://techcrunch.com/2014/07/17/microsoft-to-cut-workforce...

Re:How Satya Nadella revived Microsoft by paulddraper on Friday February 10, 2017 @02:37PM (#13618192)
Um, okay. You are correct that he did not fire every single employee (besides himself) and then hire everyone that currently works at MS.