Re:What Vizio was doing behind the TV screen
by tgsovlerkhgsel on Monday February 06, 2017 @07:39PM
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So basically, it pays to engage in unethical behavior, because if you do get caught, the fine will usually not be more than the profit you made from said behavior.
Re:What Vizio was doing behind the TV screen
by bredren on Monday February 06, 2017 @08:44PM
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Obviously. Whatsapp broke privacy law in Canada and across Europe to hack growth. Different industry, but Four Loko also was penalized for its risky (but great for some people) original formula.
Re:What Vizio was doing behind the TV screen
by mbesto on Monday February 06, 2017 @08:00PM
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> Vizio collected a selection of pixels on the screen that it matched to a database of TV, movie, and commercial content.
That type of technology alone would cost you at least $2M to build.
So either your statement is incorrect or Vizio got a terrible ROI on this (sans fine).
Re:What Vizio was doing behind the TV screen
by spangry on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @09:22AM
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I doubt it would cost nearly that much. I could build something similar in a couple of days, and I'm not even a developer by trade.
Just use something like pHash (e.g. https://github.com/JohannesBuchner/imagehash), screen cap the centre of the screen (say, a quarter of the screen in total) every minute, hash and then send the 8 byte hex string back to home base.
Re:What Vizio was doing behind the TV screen
by scient on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @09:55AM
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Ah, the "I'm no developer, but this is easy" person. Glad to have your valuable input here :)
Re:What Vizio was doing behind the TV screen
by antisthenes on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @01:50PM
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"I could build a twitter clone over the weekend!"
Re:What Vizio was doing behind the TV screen
by runholm on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @11:12AM
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The problem you are describing is one that many large companies spend huge resources on today, so guarantee you that it is not something you do in a couple of days.
Even if you had the system up and running, you would still need to create a large database system managing 100 billion data points each day and integrate the stream of information with your customers APIs.
$2m worth of developer time going into this project is very likely. Thinking you could do this in a couple of days is simply ignorant.
Re:What Vizio was doing behind the TV screen
by alexpersian on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @09:36AM
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Ok. Now get the database of content to match it against and build a program that automatically determines what the user is engaged in.
Re:What Vizio was doing behind the TV screen
by spangry on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @10:13AM
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Ok, I'll just go and buy a major media content publisher. Sony, perhaps...
Re:What Vizio was doing behind the TV screen
by passivepinetree on Monday February 06, 2017 @07:02PM
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Can you elaborate on your industry knowledge? I'm not in the industry so I'm curious. I would guess that Vizio would have been able to demand a premium for that data.
Re:What Vizio was doing behind the TV screen
by falcor84 on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @07:21AM
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An order of magnitude would be ~$20m (actually ~$50m, together with the other fine). And I too believe that the fines were too small
With a little bit of industry knowledge, I would posit that they made roughly the same quantum as the fine.