oh good lord are we pedantic. Yes, not everyone uses the same techs. All i'm trying to say is that we'll see more and more of it.

It's already happening with Elm, Elixir, etc.

No, just not everyone lives on Silicon Valley, or cool cities with startups.

There are zero jobs for Elm, Elixir, .... where I live.

The parent claimed "Elm, Elixer, ..." were the future of the industry. You seem to be asserting that they are not the present.

I am asserting most of us across the world, work in boring companies whose main business is not software development and don't use such languages and never will, yes.

You had only been asserting "don't use such languages", you hadn't really got to "and never will". And I don't know whether I disagree, but you've certainly not made a case for it.

No, you are the ones asserting "don't use such languages".

I am asserting "most of us never will never be allowed to use them at work.", which is quite different point.

Not everyone can relocate just for the pleasure of using another programming language.

But I guess not having job offers on the region one lives is not considered making a point.

> No, you are the ones asserting "don't use such languages".

Oops, did you read that as imperative? It was just meant to be present tense. I didn't mean that you were recommending people not use these languages, just saying jobs aren't presently available in most companies. I missed the ambiguity when I wrote it; my bad.

My point was that the fact that you are not currently being allowed to use these languages doesn't imply that new languages won't be added to the list of "Java, C#, JavaScript, C++, SQL" - there was a time when none of those were on the list. It may be that there is something in particular that will prevent the addition of "these languages" but it hasn't been spoken to.