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Re:Why I replaced MIT with copyleft license for Nodemailer by vacri on Friday February 03, 2017 @07:56AM (#13559443)
I guess we have different ideas on what makes a community. When I go to a local community barbeque, I hang out and chat as I graze on the food. Apparently you just silently shovel half the sausages into a knapsack, grab a pitcher of drink, and just fuck off without acknowledging anyone. Hey, the food was free, so why should they expect some social interaction, right? I mean, there wasn't a sign up saying "For every sausage, you must spend 5 minutes chatting", so it's not it's expected (or explicitly warranted), right?
Re:Why I replaced MIT with copyleft license for Nodemailer by clort on Friday February 03, 2017 @08:37AM (#13559676)
I don't think your analogy works, quite.

Principally, the food is a scarce resource whereas the equivalent to software would be where the community were competing amongst themselves to make a single great sausage; that sausage would be placed on a table by the kerb and people outside would be able to take away as many molecularly identical copies of the sausage as they provided energy to create. The community can socialise amongst themselves and you are free to join in but there is no requirement to do so.

Re:Why I replaced MIT with copyleft license for Nodemailer by vacri on Friday February 03, 2017 @10:07PM (#13565406)
However, maintaining a project over the course of years is not effortless on the part of the provider, as explicitly stated in the article. The problem isn't in the software itself being duplicated, it's in the labour around providing the service.

To continue with the (now tortured) bbq analogy: as the sausages go cold (=software ages), someone has to cook up more fresh ones.

Re:Why I replaced MIT with copyleft license for Nodemailer by Chris2048 on Friday February 03, 2017 @09:06AM (#13559830)
> the community were competing amongst themselves to make a single great sausage

I think a great idea was just born! #sausagecoldwar

Re:Why I replaced MIT with copyleft license for Nodemailer by Chris2048 on Friday February 03, 2017 @09:04AM (#13559821)
> Apparently you just silently shovel...

This poor characterisation of me has nothing to do with the topic, and is just abuse.

There is an expectation at a BBQ, though this differs culturally. There is not such an expectation for FOSS projects, unless explicitlty stated somewhere.

If you want to compare the two; tell me why BBQs are generally not open to anyone, whereas there are few restrictions on FOSS contributors? What are the consumables in a BBQ (food) versus a FOSS project (developer time), and who contributes these in each case?

Re:Why I replaced MIT with copyleft license for Nodemailer by vacri on Friday February 03, 2017 @09:59PM (#13565374)
So, to repeat, "I guess we have different ideas on what makes a community."

> tell me why BBQs are generally not open to anyone

Hence why I specified "local community", not "someone's friend's backyard".

In any case, you're missing the point of the analogy, and extend any analogy and it will fall apart. You're missing the human aspect of FOSS, instead interpreting it as a literal legal case.

And yes, there is expectation in FOSS that others will pitch in and help when your project is extremely popular. ESR, coiner of the 'open source' term we're talking about, explicitly promoted it with the term 'enough eyeballs make all bugs shallow'. How is that not seen as an expectation of kicking back at least some effort?

Re:Why I replaced MIT with copyleft license for Nodemailer by Chris2048 on Saturday February 04, 2017 @09:24AM (#13567058)
The issue is the expectation that you will receive contributions, versus obligation on all users to contribute, and I don't think there is any obligation.

ESRs quote praises the OS virtue of allowing source code to be read, it doesn't imply an obligation on all users of FOSS, legal, moral, or otherwise.