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Re:Trump threatens to cut funds to UC Berkeley after protest by Alex3917 on Thursday February 02, 2017 @12:35PM (#13552461)
Regardless of what you want to call it, the real question is why liberals are now fighting against civil liberties.
Re:Trump threatens to cut funds to UC Berkeley after protest by whitneyrzoller on Thursday February 02, 2017 @12:50PM (#13552659)
That's a pretty broad brush. I attended Cal and observed a sizable Anarchist population in Berkeley and Oakland that actually had nothing to do with the University. Were some of the rioters from Cal? Probably. I suspect the vast majority were not.

At least at the University level it seems like free speech was an important factor for deciding to allow hosting somebody with such an incendiary message. Here's the chancellor's statement: http://news.berkeley.edu/2017/01/26/chancellor-statement-on-...

Re:Trump threatens to cut funds to UC Berkeley after protest by simonh on Thursday February 02, 2017 @12:55PM (#13552722)
I don't think it's fair to blame 'liberals'. The University which expressed differences with the invitee's beliefs but invited him to speak, struggled to create a safe environment but ultimately was unable to do so, yes. They could be described as liberals. But violent protest is pretty much by definition an illiberal activity.

For example, would you describe the Black Panthers liberals? Personally I wouldn't. They may share some objectives with liberals - equal treatment of a minority - but methods matter. I would no more call those rioters liberals than I'd call white supremacists 'conservatives'.

Re:Trump threatens to cut funds to UC Berkeley after protest by general_ai on Thursday February 02, 2017 @01:52PM (#13553288)
As far as I can tell from available news, no one "struggled" worth a damn to create a safe environment. In fact the opposite seems to be true: police was ordered to stand down, inviting the situation to get out of control.
Re:Trump threatens to cut funds to UC Berkeley after protest by jamesmp98 on Thursday February 02, 2017 @12:59PM (#13552760)
> I would no more call those rioters liberals than I'd call white supremacists 'conservatives'.

Unfortunately, most of the rest of the country thinks otherwise.

Re:Trump threatens to cut funds to UC Berkeley after protest by psyc on Thursday February 02, 2017 @01:38PM (#13553151)
Doublespeak works wonders. "No-platforming" and "The Paradox of Tolerance" are very hot topics of discussion among young leftists right now.
Re:Trump threatens to cut funds to UC Berkeley after protest by charonn0 on Thursday February 02, 2017 @01:29PM (#13553060)
The real question is whether President Trump's threats are justifiable, but I'd settle for understanding how you justify your criticism of an entire bloc.
Re:Trump threatens to cut funds to UC Berkeley after protest by vkou on Thursday February 02, 2017 @12:40PM (#13552524)
Milo has no god-enshrined right to hold a rally at a university campus, just like he has no god-enshrined right to hold one at the country club down the road. It is completely consistent to protest the establishments allowing him to do so.

There is also the argument that fascism is an existential threat to liberal democracy. See the paradox of tolerance.

Re:Trump threatens to cut funds to UC Berkeley after protest by Alex3917 on Thursday February 02, 2017 @12:42PM (#13552548)
You're missing the point though. They're protesting him because one of his Twitter followers called Leslie Jones an ape.

And yet they weren't throwing rocks at Bernie because his followers referred to black people as low-information voters. Nor were they protesting Hillary because her followers referred to Obama as a boy.

Do you really not see the double standard?

Re:Trump threatens to cut funds to UC Berkeley after protest by dagw on Thursday February 02, 2017 @01:00PM (#13552774)
They're protesting him because one of his Twitter followers called Leslie Jones an ape.

Do you seriously, honestly believe that that is only or even primary reason people might have for protesting Milo?

Re:Trump threatens to cut funds to UC Berkeley after protest by Alex3917 on Thursday February 02, 2017 @01:04PM (#13552810)
> Do you seriously, honestly believe that that is only or even primary reason people might have for protesting Milo?

Yes. The reason most people are giving for protesting him is that he's racist, and the fact that one of his followers called Leslie Jones an ape is always cited as the reason for why he's racist.

If you don't believe me, look at the reasons the ADL gives for why he's racist:

http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/domestic-extremism-terrori...

Re:Trump threatens to cut funds to UC Berkeley after protest by neaden on Thursday February 02, 2017 @01:19PM (#13552964)
How about when he publicly doxxed and insulted a transgender student at UW-Milwaukee as another reason to protest him among many many other valid reasons? http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/12/milo-yiannopoulos-harassed-a...
Re:Trump threatens to cut funds to UC Berkeley after protest by vkou on Thursday February 02, 2017 @12:46PM (#13552605)
> They're protesting him because one of his Twitter followers called Leslie Jones an ape.

There's a million reasons to protest this guy. You're missing the forest through the trees, by focusing on only one (That you consider absurd or hypocritical).

Bernie Sanders also didn't speak out in support of a muslim ban, or building a wall, or deporting millions of people... But Milo sure did.

Re:Trump threatens to cut funds to UC Berkeley after protest by Moshe_Silnorin on Thursday February 02, 2017 @12:42PM (#13552547)
He does at public universities.
Re:Trump threatens to cut funds to UC Berkeley after protest by vkou on Thursday February 02, 2017 @12:44PM (#13552585)
No, he doesn't. Universities are free to choose who they will invite to speak. He is using campus facilities - specifically, lecture halls for his rally. They have the right to refuse.

If he held his rally on the lawn, that would be a different story.

Re:Trump threatens to cut funds to UC Berkeley after protest by williamgb on Thursday February 02, 2017 @12:52PM (#13552677)
He was holding a rally?