Re:Taxi Medallion Prices Are Plummeting, Endangering Loans
by wmf on Monday January 30, 2017 @08:20PM
(#13526663)
If someone invests in a restaurant that has a government-granted monopoly and then the government rescinds that monopoly they may have cause for complaint. Or maybe they should have just priced in the risk of a disruptive black swan event.
Re:Taxi Medallion Prices Are Plummeting, Endangering Loans
by bermanoid on Monday January 30, 2017 @08:57PM
(#13526836)
Betting on a government-granted monopoly is still a bet. Just as if I bought stock in a company that thrives because it has a patent that may or may not be overturned on appeal, or a monopoly that might be smashed due to an anti-trust action.
Investments often result in money lost, that's life - as someone that's been in the market for decades now, yes, I do think it's on you to be aware that black swan bubbles exist, and you'll get wiped out if you're all-in on one when it pops.
If you can't handle the risk of your investment going to zero, hold low-yield bonds, cash, or gold.
Re:Taxi Medallion Prices Are Plummeting, Endangering Loans
by chillacy on Monday January 30, 2017 @08:23PM
(#13526681)
I think all investments should have risk, and if the government bails people out then there's all upside and no downside, why wouldn't banks exploit that financially to the extreme?
I think it might be desirable to take out insurance on the asset though as a buyer. It could be an interesting market too.
Re:Taxi Medallion Prices Are Plummeting, Endangering Loans
by throwaw181ay on Monday January 30, 2017 @09:52PM
(#13527128)
Banks hardly lose money on loans, they have an infinite capacity to go after delinquents. Try to default on your loan and see what happens to you. You'll be a slave of the bank for the rest of your life.
Of course, individuals bear no such power. So please don't use banks as an example.
Re:Taxi Medallion Prices Are Plummeting, Endangering Loans
by the_watcher on Monday January 30, 2017 @10:08PM
(#13527200)
> Try to default on your loan and see what happens to you. You'll be a slave of the bank for the rest of your life.
Bankruptcy exists almost entirely to offer protection against this exact scenario playing out.
Re:Taxi Medallion Prices Are Plummeting, Endangering Loans
by Johnny555 on Monday January 30, 2017 @10:28PM
(#13527306)
As long as the debt in question is not a student loan, which usually survive the bankruptcy.
Re:Taxi Medallion Prices Are Plummeting, Endangering Loans
by pmiller2 on Monday January 30, 2017 @11:05PM
(#13527469)
"Usually" is quite correct. You basically have to prove there would be no hope of being able to pay it back without severe financial hardship, and the bar for hardship is fairly high. Even when some student debt is discharged in bankruptcy, it's often a partial discharge.
If someone invests in a taxi medallion, why are they more worthy of aid than someone who invests in a restaurant?