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Re:Ask HN: Why aren't there middle class cars shaped like Fe... by TylerE on Sunday January 22, 2017 @04:24PM (#13457577)
The 4C has a base price of $55,000. You can spec most mid-sized crossovers into that price territory.

They build 3,500 of 'em per year. That's very high compared to say, any given Ferrari or Lamborghini model.

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Re:Ask HN: Why aren't there middle class cars shaped like Fe... by jbmorgado on Sunday January 22, 2017 @05:02PM (#13457834)
I think the difference might lie in the income level in USA vs EU, but a middle class car in EU is about 25K-35K euros after all taxes.
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Re:Ask HN: Why aren't there middle class cars shaped like Fe... by TylerE on Sunday January 22, 2017 @05:14PM (#13457920)
Average new car price (NOT including taxes and fees) in the US is $34,400.

http://mediaroom.kbb.com/record-new-car-transaction-prices-r...

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Re:Ask HN: Why aren't there middle class cars shaped like Fe... by jbmorgado on Sunday January 22, 2017 @05:21PM (#13457959)
Yes, but what I meant is what do you consider middle segment for cars in the USA?

In EU, a Volkswagen Golf for instance is middle segment, but perhaps in the USA is considered lower segment and therefore the difference.

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Re:Ask HN: Why aren't there middle class cars shaped like Fe... by TylerE on Sunday January 22, 2017 @05:36PM (#13458040)
We buy way way way more luxury cars and suvs than you do. These are not considered vehicles for the wealthy either.

Small cars do not really sell here.

(For reference, I actually bought a new VW Golf R about 2 weeks ago... for roughly $41,000, just as a single data point).

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Re:Ask HN: Why aren't there middle class cars shaped like Fe... by jayjay71 on Monday January 23, 2017 @03:31AM (#13460738)
How much do you like the Golf R? Is the 4WD worth the price increase over the GTI?
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Re:Ask HN: Why aren't there middle class cars shaped like Fe... by TylerE on Monday January 23, 2017 @09:45AM (#13462458)
Love it.

In my case, the price premium isn't really that much to even think of, as I would have been going with a fully loaded GTI, which would have sticked around $35k or so, so it's not even _that_ much of a price bump.

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