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Re:Ask HN: Why aren't there middle class cars shaped like Fe... by jbmorgado on Sunday January 22, 2017 @05:21PM (#13457959)
Yes, but what I meant is what do you consider middle segment for cars in the USA?

In EU, a Volkswagen Golf for instance is middle segment, but perhaps in the USA is considered lower segment and therefore the difference.

Re:Ask HN: Why aren't there middle class cars shaped like Fe... by TylerE on Sunday January 22, 2017 @05:36PM (#13458040)
We buy way way way more luxury cars and suvs than you do. These are not considered vehicles for the wealthy either.

Small cars do not really sell here.

(For reference, I actually bought a new VW Golf R about 2 weeks ago... for roughly $41,000, just as a single data point).

Re:Ask HN: Why aren't there middle class cars shaped like Fe... by jayjay71 on Monday January 23, 2017 @03:31AM (#13460738)
How much do you like the Golf R? Is the 4WD worth the price increase over the GTI?
Re:Ask HN: Why aren't there middle class cars shaped like Fe... by TylerE on Monday January 23, 2017 @09:45AM (#13462458)
Love it.

In my case, the price premium isn't really that much to even think of, as I would have been going with a fully loaded GTI, which would have sticked around $35k or so, so it's not even _that_ much of a price bump.