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Re:Why we should all have a basic income by lisivka on Sunday January 22, 2017 @10:11AM (#13455440)
So, I, programmer, will be forced to work 12 hours per day to keep robots firmware up to date, while everybody else will enjoy free ride? Sorry, it will not work: I will chose free ride too.

Why not just decrease number of working hours to say 2 per day, but for everybody, instead?

Re:Why we should all have a basic income by aianus on Sunday January 22, 2017 @10:20AM (#13455475)
> Sorry, it will not work: I will chose free ride too.

Maybe you would, but I think most people would rather have a job and be fabulously wealthy relative to those surviving on UBI alone. See: all the people who work 60h a week in SF making $200k instead of chilling at a bank working 35h for $80k.

Re:Why we should all have a basic income by lisivka on Sunday January 22, 2017 @10:26AM (#13455513)
Politics will tell people that they will raise basic income to win election. To raise income, they will raise taxes, so I will work 80h for $20K instead of $200K.

It's not a joke: post-USSR countries already have exactly this problem.

Re:Why we should all have a basic income by aianus on Sunday January 22, 2017 @10:36AM (#13455562)
I don't think any countries have successfully automated most of their economies yet so it's apples and oranges.
Re:Why we should all have a basic income by josscrowcroft on Sunday January 22, 2017 @10:27AM (#13455516)
Alternatively - under UBI - you may decide to work 6 hours per day, and enjoy the earned income in addition to the regular Basic Income payment, all the while knowing that you can leave (or switch employer) any time without fear of destitution.
Re:Why we should all have a basic income by PretzelFisch on Sunday January 22, 2017 @11:43AM (#13455883)
You would still face the same issue since, you make more money you may have a nicer apartment or house. You would then still be trapped in that job to maintain your chosen lifestyle.
Re:Why we should all have a basic income by jacoblambda on Sunday January 22, 2017 @03:31PM (#13457241)
Yes but that is entirely your choice. If you want the freedom to leave a job on a whim then you likely are not going to be spending money on a home that is too expensive to live in without working.
Re:Why we should all have a basic income by lisivka on Sunday January 22, 2017 @10:36AM (#13455563)
Difference between $X for 0hpd and $Y for 6hpd is too steep.
Re:Why we should all have a basic income by pessimizer on Sunday January 22, 2017 @09:04PM (#13459125)
The free ride bus is too ratty for me; I'll take half of your job and I'm sure we'll find someone else to take the other half.
Re:Why we should all have a basic income by wakkaflokka on Sunday January 22, 2017 @10:21AM (#13455482)
I would hope that working 12 hours a day to keep robots firmware up to date would command a lot more money than a basic income would?
Re:Why we should all have a basic income by lisivka on Sunday January 22, 2017 @10:30AM (#13455526)
Taxes will eat that income with easy: 50% tax on firm, 50% tax on worker before salary, 30% tax on worker after salary, 18% tax into basic income fund, 20% VAT, and hundreds of other, smaller taxes.
Re:Why we should all have a basic income by Dolores12 on Sunday January 22, 2017 @10:17AM (#13455467)
If basic income is good enough for you, you may stop working. Some people need more than basic income.
Re:Why we should all have a basic income by lisivka on Sunday January 22, 2017 @10:34AM (#13455552)
Thank you, captain. I already said that.
Re:Why we should all have a basic income by Dolores12 on Sunday January 22, 2017 @11:03AM (#13455711)
I am sorry, how is that a useful comment and adds value to discussion?